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Bruno can you make a thread for Trevor Ariza, thanks
If you're up for signing Marion, you go all the way and offer to take him on in FA and get the 13th pick(pre-arranged deal). Have to be confident that you can sign Manu and Splitter for a combined figure small enough to do that.
Splitter/Baynes
TD/Diaw
Kawhi/Marion
Green/Manu
TP/Cojo
With 13th, 28th, Nando, Patty thrown in for good measure. I don't know if the Mavs actually want to trade Marion before FA, but it's an option, and if you can get the 13th pick for your troubles you do it. Adding Adams/Snell or similar gives you even more of a youth core moving forwards.
Bruno can you make a thread for Trevor Ariza, thanks
Tyreke Evans knocks out the first two. I'm willing to gamble and play Baynes for the rebounding questions.
Good post. I'd gladly take Marion off Dallas's hand if the spurs could get the 13 in order to grab Adams or Gobert. Spurs could send back Bonner, recently opted-in Mills and the 28th for Marion and the 13th. Spurs would need to only absorb about 4.5m-5m of Marion's salary by my count. Dallas would save that plus half of Bonner's deal.
Only problem I see is that Marion would need to opt-in to his deal before the draft, no?
Don't like Marion, I would like someone younger and that can hit the 3.
If Splitter is due to make 8-9 million, I rather Spurs ante up 2-3 more million and go after Al Jefferson. Even if his defense is mediocre, you can rely on him in big moments/big games. You can't say the same about Splitter.
Exactly.
It seems like the spurs will bring back the core players in the rotation to me. Manu, and Tiago. The question marks really come up when you think about Gary Neal and what to do with Bonner. After that you are evaluating what they do with players already on contracts past this upcoming season like Nando, Joseph, and possibly Mills. Makes you wish you were a fly on the wall on the exit interviews for the season and what expectations or recommendations they have for the 2nd unit members of the spurs in terms of improvements.
I mean people are wanting to change the first unit with trades and new players this off season when the spurs were literally just a couple of missed buckets in the final game of the season from being champions and a previous game where a miraculous shot took away their other opportunity. I don't see much changing
yeah I agree. I only see changes for the second unit.
Sure but that was with Splitter earning 4M. Would you pay him Tim Duncan money for that performance in the finals? If so, is it worth tying down cap space once the big three become just TP?
I seriously doubt anyone is giving him Duncan like salary. 7-8 million is his ceiling for a contract. If he asks for more the spurs will let him test the waters. Realistically I see him between 4.5 to 8 mil a year from the spurs
I really, really hope Manu takes a small contract (4M or less). Not that it should be expected, but it would just open up so many opportunities in theory. If he does that (4M) Spurs could have pretty easily 15.5M to find a Tiago replacement (if he walks) + another FA (so maybe 8M for Tiago replacement, then 7.5 for someone else). Of you get Tiago (assuming he makes about 8M), then 7.5 for someone else.
Do you guys assume Tiago isn't loyal? Just because he's offered 6-8 million doesn't mean he jumps on it. We DID establish him, and he DOES fit in with the culture, therefore he might just accept less to stay and compete for a championship. Also he is 28, which means he isn't getting a long term deal regardless of where he lands.
I think Tiago stays cause he has his friends Manu, Oberto, so I don't see him going to another city. The only other place I could see him going would be back to Spain but still thinks he stays.
True. Al Jeff's post offense is excellent, although some teams can actually kill us on PnR because of him and Duncan in the lineup at the same time.
where is greg oden these days?
I'd rather David West instead of Al in thinking about it, but both seem unlikely.
It's frightening to think about giving 8 mil per year to a player whose confidence shrivels when compe ion is at its best.
Give me David West, Milsap or Jefferson, tbh.
Well, Al Jefferson doesn't do much better there IMO.
I disagree. He's carried teams in compe ive/big games on his back for several years -- he just hasn't had much help. The guy can compete. His defense may not be the best (although it may be overly criticized to a degree), I still rather have him over Splitter.
In addition, Tim may hang it up after this upcoming season. With that being said, I would much rather have Al Jefferson for 3 more years in the front-court instead of Splitter post Duncan era.
I hated on TJ Ford until it was brought to my attention that TJ's never had a great coach. Perhaps Al Jefferson is in a similar boat. He's obviously talented and has one of the better post games in the league.. but has he ever had a high level coach to guide him? He's always been on losing and volatile teams so I doubt it.
I agree! I suggested David West in another thread and pretty much got shot down because one poster in here stated he was over 30 with chronic back problems. I disagreed but didn't respond. David West would be a great pickup if splitter walks or is offered an outrages offer. LA from Portland would also be a decent pickup if we can somehow make a deal with them.
dont think David West leaves Indiana and don't think Indiana will allow him to leave (i.e. they really want him back)
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