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    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...-no-1-decision

    Doesn't give specs. but OKC, is mentioned along with Portland as "proactive" trade partners with Cleveland.

    OKC has the #12pick and the #29th pick. Last years #12 pick Jeremy Lamb.

    Cleveland already has the #19th, 31st and 33rd picks in this draft and obviously the #1.

    I'd imagine OKC would draft Len #1 given that they really have no low post scoring with Ibaka & Perkins.

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    That would suck tbh.

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    I don't see Cleveland giving up a 1st if OKC does not offer either Westbrook or Durant which will not happen. If Cleveland settles with anything less than any one of those two players for a #1 pick, that is just plain stupid.

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    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...-no-1-decision

    Doesn't give specs. but OKC, is mentioned along with Portland as "proactive" trade partners with Cleveland.

    OKC has the #12pick and the #29th pick. Last years #12 pick Jeremy Lamb.

    Cleveland already has the #19th, 31st and 33rd picks in this draft and obviously the #1.

    I'd imagine OKC would draft Len #1 given that they really have no low post scoring with Ibaka & Perkins.
    And pray, what would the Thunder do to pry the #1? Kevin Martin's contract is coming off their books now. They aren't going to trade Westbrook or Durant. And certainly not Ibaka after retaining him while dumping Harden.

    And the Cavs will not be stupid enough to take back Perkins/ Collison/Jackson/Sefolosha or Thabeet for the #1.

    I bet this is a printing mistake by Chad Ford.

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    And pray, what would the Thunder do to pry the #1? Kevin Martin's contract is coming off their books now. They aren't going to trade Westbrook or Durant. And certainly not Ibaka after retaining him while dumping Harden.

    And the Cavs will not be stupid enough to take back Perkins/ Collison/Jackson/Sefolosha or Thabeet for the #1.

    I bet this is a printing mistake by Chad Ford.
    Sefolosha, Lamb, Reggie Jackson, #12 and #29 this year....yeah, still not enough for #1. Sure the draft isn't top-heavy, but it's still the freaking #1 pick.

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    jeremy lmb

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    Lol Presti trying to make up for Harden deal.

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    They are giving them Perkins, that`s for sure. No way they even send them offer - #1 for #12 #29 and Jeremy Lamb. No way.

    And Cleveland knows that this trade would brind them way too much young players.

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    Please trade ibaka

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    Eh Alex Len has too much upside to trade for a couple later picks and Jeremy Lamb. Even if Perkins (who they're trying to dump off on someone else) is included.

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    And pray, what would the Thunder do to pry the #1? Kevin Martin's contract is coming off their books now. They aren't going to trade Westbrook or Durant. And certainly not Ibaka after retaining him while dumping Harden.

    And the Cavs will not be stupid enough to take back Perkins/ Collison/Jackson/Sefolosha or Thabeet for the #1.

    I bet this is a printing mistake by Chad Ford.
    Whats a misprint from Ford? He never mentioned any particulars on a trade to OKC. I wrote that OKC has the # 12 & #29 also I think they have the #32. They also have Lamb. They could package the #12 and #29 for a higher pick and then maybe make a deal where they get the #1 pick, throw in Lamb, maybe Jackson and or Sef. That isn't a terrible package but Its nots not likely to work.

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    lol, unless they are giving durant for the number 1 pick, it will never happen.

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    If this is a real thing, Ibaka is the only asset they have that's remotely comparable. Westbrook and Durant are worth way more, and every other asset on their roster is worth way too little.

    If Presti sees a guy who he thinks can be a legit all star frontcourt player I could see him sending Ibaka -- this year's playoffs established his ceiling. And Cleveland has plenty of young guys and now needs actual current players to put on the court, which means Ibaka might be a good choice.

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    Cleveland won't give the #1 away for Ibaka.. It would take a package of players.

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    Cleveland won't give the #1 away for Ibaka.. It would take a package of players.
    Probably not straight up, but Ibaka would be the best piece. They could easily take back the #12 and stay in the draft if they want, and I'm sure that there would be plenty of other pieces discussed as a way of filling out the deal.

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    the #1 pick is overrated in this draft...okc should just try to trade into the top 5. They'd probably get the same quality whilst having to give up far less in return

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    the #1 pick is overrated in this draft...okc should just try to trade into the top 5. They'd probably get the same quality whilst having to give up far less in return
    It depends on which guy they want and how much they want him.

    Also, Cleveland has expressed an interest in trading their pick. If no one else in the top 5 is as determined to trade, it might be easier to get a deal for #1 than #4.

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    It depends on which guy they want and how much they want him.

    Also, Cleveland has expressed an interest in trading their pick. If no one else in the top 5 is as determined to trade, it might be easier to get a deal for #1 than #4.

    I think everyone in the draft is at least open to the idea of trading, i guess to what degree is determined solely on the teams current situation, needs and what is being offered. However based on the high degree of variability in the mock drafts i've seen, i don't think any of these teams are certain of who is going to be taken where.

    unless okc are gunning for Oladipo, the other so called "top" prospects imho are far from being sure things...but i'll guess we'll have to wait and see

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    The Cavaliers already have 2 First Round Picks (#1 and #19) plus two early second round picks (#31, #33). I am pretty sure that they aren't going to try to get more first round picks for the sake of it from the Thunder (#12, #29) in a very weak draft and in a situation, where first round picks are also going to cost teams, many who are fearful of the luxury tax implications or are keen to unload contracts to attract free agents.

    There is no way where the Thunder can tempt the Cavaliers with their combination of first round picks and young talent who haven't panned out at all (Lamb, Perry Jones, Thabeet) or useless one-way veterans such as Kendrick Perkins who are on overpriced contracts.

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    unless okc are gunning for Oladipo, the other so called "top" prospects imho are far from being sure things...but i'll guess we'll have to wait and see
    Well, no, but teams that are confident in their drafting will take a guy who is considered questionable by the world at large because they have their own way of rating prospects that rates him higher -- the same way that the Spurs had Kawhi rated much higher than a lot of teams who passed on him.

    Like Mahinmi -- everyone had a second-round grade on him, but the Spurs rated him higher, so they just went after him. And the Spurs have such a good rep that the rest of the world assumed that the Spurs were right and they were wrong! But I'm pretty sure that Presti wouldn't hesitate to take a guy that's considered a great big question mark if the guy gets a good enough grade internally.

    It's the GMs who aren't confident in their drafting that feel like they have to pay a lot of attention to what the world at large thinks. They feel like they need to follow conventional wisdom so that when they screw up, they can excuse it by saying that everyone agreed with them and would have done the same thing.

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    Reggie Jackson seemed like he had promise, tbh. Although he might turn into another Roddy Beaubois.

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    They are giving them Perkins, that`s for sure. No way they even send them offer - #1 for #12 #29 and Jeremy Lamb. No way.

    And Cleveland knows that this trade would brind them way too much young players.
    Told ya

    @MySportsLegion: The Thunder offered Kendrick Perkins, the 12th and 29th pick to the Cavaliers for the #1 overall pick, Cavs declined.

    Presti is an idiot. He also let go of Harden for one year rental of Kevin Martin.

    If I was NBA GM, I wouldnt dare sending such offer. He should be embarrased for it.

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    I think the Thunder trade Durant, Westbrook and Jackson for the 1st round pick and a jar of Cleveland smog.

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    @MySportsLegion: The Thunder offered Kendrick Perkins, the 12th and 29th pick to the Cavaliers for the #1 overall pick

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