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    That's like saying some of the Nazi concentration camps were not as bad as others.
    No, not really.

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    Fracking is a boon to manufacturers but not their workers

    But state employment data, academic research and a week-long tour of half a dozen factories in Ohio suggests the shale gas revolution has been a disappointment when it comes to job creation.

    “The industries benefiting are more capital intensive than labor intensive,” said Tom Waltermire, the chief executive of Team NEO, the economic development agency for northeast Ohio.


    “Even a manufacturing renaissance won’t require the same headcount per unit of output as we had 20 or 30 years ago. If it did require that, the renaissance would never happen.”


    In March, a study by Cleveland State University concluded that while gas exploration had unleashed a surge in economic activity in Ohio, job growth – even in counties directly affected by the drilling – was stagnant. The employment growth that many assumed would follow the energy investment was “not yet evident,” the study’s authors said.


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    Fracking Is Already Straining U.S. Water Supplies

    Some of America's most intensive oil and gas development is occurring in drought-prone regions where water is scarce

    As the level of hydraulic fracturing of oil and gas wells in the United States has intensified in recent years, much of the mounting public concern has centered on fears that underground water supplies could be contaminated with the toxic chemicals used in the well-stimulation technique that cracks rock formations and releases trapped oil and gas. But in some parts of the country, worries are also growing about fracking’s effect on water supply, as the water-intensive process stirs compe ion for the resources already stretched thin by drought or other factors.

    Every fracking job requires 2 million to 4 million gallons of water, according to the Groundwater Protection Council. The Environmental Protection Agency, or EPA, has estimated that the 35,000 oil and gas wells used for fracking consume between 70 billion and 140 billion gallons of water each year. That’s about equal, EPA says, to the water use in 40 to 80 cities with populations of 50,000 people, or one to two cities with a population of 2.5 million each.

    Ceres found that 47 percent of these wells were in areas “with high or extremely high water stress” because of large withdrawals for use by industry, agriculture, and municipalities. In Colorado, for example, 92 percent of the wells were in extremely high water-stress areas, and in Texas more than half were in high or extremely high water-stress areas.

    Another recent study by the University of Texas looked at past and projected water use for fracking in the Barnett, Eagle Ford, and Haynesville shale plays in Texas, and found that fracking in 2011 was using more than twice as much water in the state as it was three years earlier. In Dimmit County, home to the Eagle Ford shale development in South Texas, fracking accounted for nearly a quarter of overall water consumption in 2011 and is expected to grow to a third in a few years, according to the study.

    etc

    http://www.alternet.org/fracking/fra...water-supplies

    and the poisoned, toxic is forced back down waste wells to contaminate ground water. An expensive, Human-American-subsidized "externality" that BigOilGas will never pay for.

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    Chevron CEO admits fracking raises “legitimate” safety concerns

    Energy producers must deal with the “legitimate concerns” that gas development associated with hydraulic fracturing is unsafe by adopting tougher standards, Chevron Corp. Chief Executive Officer John Watson said. …
    “Public expectations are very high, and there’s no reason they shouldn’t be high,” Watson said. “There are some risks out there. Some risks are overstated. But we have to engage them either way.”

    Kurt Glaubitz, a Chevron spokesman, said Watson was referring to concerns with truck traffic and the disposal of hazardous wastewater from the fracking process as areas of concern the industry needs to confront.

    Those are stronger words than we’ve heard from the Obama administration, which is taking a less-than-aggressive approach to regulating the fracking industry — much to the anger of environmentalists.

    http://grist.org/news/chevron-ceo-ad..._campaign=feed

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    Frackademia: University of Tennessee Set to Lease Forest For Fracking, Enriching Governor's Family

    Eight thousand and six hundred acres of the berland Forest owned by University of Tennessee-Knoxville will be leased off to the oil and gas industry this August in a new form of "frackademia" - and one of the top financial beneficiaries will be the family of Republican Gov. Bill Haslam, who sits on UT-Knoxville's Board of Trustees.

    Haslam Family: Leveraging UT-Knoxville Ties for Fracking Profits


    Gov. Haslam, the former Mayor of Knoxville, took $398,110 from the oil and gas industry before his Nov. 2010 gubernatorial race victory.

    The Haslam family is an oil and gas family through and through, standing to profit immensely from a fracking boom in Tennessee and nationwide.


    In 2012, the Haslam family - owners of Pilot Flying J truck fueling stations, a corporation where Bill Haslem used to serve as president - purchased Western Petroleum and Maxum Petroleum. Both Western and Maxum are major suppliers of fuel and lubricants for fracking operations. Pilot Flying J is the nation's No. 1 retailer of diesel fuel and is the 6th most profitable corporation in the U.S., earning over $29 billion in 2012.


    Pilot Flying J also has 63 of its stations nationwide retrofitted with natural gas pumps for 18-wheelers owned by T. Boone Pickens' Clean Energy Fuels Corporation (CEF) as part of CEF's "America's Natural Gas Highway." Some perspective: CEF currently has 67 U.S. fueling stations in total.


    By the end of 2013 - an article in EcoWatch explains - Pilot Flying J "plan[s] to have 100 truck stops capable of fueling 18-wheelers with...natural gas."


    Bill Haslam's father, Jim Haslem - a co-chair of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's Tennessee campaign and former member of the UT-Knoxville Board of Trustees - gave a $32.5 million donation to UT-Knoxville in 2006. It was the largest ever private donation to the university from an individual.

    http://truth-out.org/news/item/16923...vernors-family



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    What the Frack is Up with Drinking Water and Shale Gas Extraction?

    A study out today in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences helps to build the case that the practice of hydraulic fracturing, or “fracking,” does indeed pollute underground water reserves.

    They found that of the drinking water they tested in homes less than a kilometer away from a natural gas well, 82 percent had well-related methane levels that averaged six times higher than levels found in homes farther than a kilometer. (Some methane occurs naturally, so researchers teased out the isotopic signatures of methane from natural-gas sources.)

    “Overall, our data suggest that some homeowners living <1 km from gas wells have drinking water contaminated with stray gases,” wrote the study authors.

    They speculate that natural-gas-well casings may be leaking, and that the geology of the formation makes a difference in terms of what can and can’t migrate to drinking water supplies.

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/wa...9#.UcoSuqziW5I

    I read where about 1/3 of natgas is being flared due to lack of good price, no/insufficient pipelines



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    They speculate that natural-gas-well casings may be leaking, and that the geology of the formation makes a difference in terms of what can and can’t migrate to drinking water supplies.
    this is your number one reason, independent of fracking. Fractures don't penetrate water tables and the fluids CAN'T migrate through every lithology up to the water table. Boy, you sure act as if you actually know what you're talking about.

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    so you're heroically, very logically separating fracking from the failed fracking casings?

    I can't find it now, but I read that casings have lifetime of 20 years, will crack and leak that poison into the water table, aquifer.

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    so you're heroically, very logically separating fracking from the failed fracking casings?

    I can't find it now, but I read that casings have lifetime of 20 years, will crack and leak that poison into the water table, aquifer.
    What? Thinkprogress down or something?

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    so you're heroically, very logically separating fracking from the failed fracking casings?

    I can't find it now, but I read that casings have lifetime of 20 years, will crack and leak that poison into the water table, aquifer.
    lol simpleton.

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    TB less coward, got nothing to say

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    TB less coward, got nothing to say
    You mean like the slapping I gave you yesterday?

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post6707738

    Not to mention the repeated slapping by CG, Halberto and moi delivered to you in this very thread.

    Not only are you a coward, but you're a delusional coward at that.

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    You mean like the slapping I gave you yesterday?

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post6707738

    Not to mention the repeated slapping by CG, Halberto and moi delivered to you in this very thread.

    Not only are you a coward, but you're a delusional coward at that.
    TB nobody slaps The Great Boutons

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    Everybody slaps you. You're just too ing delusional to respect that.

    lol rss fellator.

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    Everybody slaps you. You're just too ing delusional to respect that.

    lol rss fellator.
    TB trash talking the evil RSS GFY

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    TB trash talking the evil RSS GFY
    Rss is great. As a confirmation bias blanket, it's pathetic. lol coward

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    TB trash talking the evil RSS GFY

    confirmation bias blanket?



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    I know you have no lucid response. Nothing new.

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    dammit, quit posting facts and studies that show fracking is toxic. TB is a fracking-is-toxic denier.

    Scientific American is a Comic Book -- WC

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    Good article. Nothing particularly groundbreaking....Im curious why a they wouldnt run a bond log after a cement job. Pretty routine down here. The second page is fairly interesting.

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    dammit, quit posting facts and studies that show fracking is toxic. TB is a fracking-is-toxic denier.

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    Get a grownup to read the article to you. It doesnt say quite what thinkprogress tells you to think.

    ing moron.

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    Get a grownup to read the article to you. It doesnt say quite what thinkprogress tells you to think.

    ing moron.
    TB has nothing to say.

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    Confirmed: Fracking Triggers Quakes and Seismic Chaos




    Major earthquakes thousands of miles away can trigger reflex quakes in areas where fluids have been injected into the ground for fracking and underground waste water storage, according to a study published in the journal Science on Thursday.

    Previous studies, covered in a recent Mother Jones feature from Michael Behar, have shown that injecting fluids into the ground can increase the seismicity of a region. This latest study shows that earthquakes can tip off smaller quakes in far-away areas where fluid has been pumped underground.


    Fracking waste fluids "kind of act as a pressurized cushion," said a lead author on the study.


    The scientists looked at three big quakes: the Tohuku-oki earthquake in Japan in 2011 (magnitude 9), the Maule in Chile in 201 (an 8.8 magnitude), and the Sumatra in Indonesia in 2012 (an 8.6). They found that, as much as 20 months later, those major quakes triggered smaller ones in places in the Midwestern US where fluids have been pumped underground for energy extraction.


    "[The fluids] kind of act as a pressurized cushion," lead author Nicholas van der Elst of the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University explained to Mother Jones. "They make it easier for the fault to slide."


    http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marb...fracking-sites

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    lol simpleton. You have no idea what that study said. Lol RSS fellator.

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