The #28th Pick. A Rundown of the Top Options Available

[BatManu20]

Franklin, Noguiera, Moscala please. Crabbe, Hardaway. Stay away from Withey, Rice and the Adetokunbo.

Why stay away from Adetokundbo? I think he's long gone before we pick anyways, but he's got arguably more upside than anyone on the draft at only 18 years old. What's not to like tbh?

[MannyIsGod]

The only team I saw play as much as UNM last year was Michigan. I'd take Burke (obviously) in a heartbeat but I don't want Glen Rice or Tim Hardaway. Way too streaky and one dimensional.

I hate Jamal Franklin and I can't decide its because he's a hole Aztec who could not be more different than Kawhi if he tried of if I honestly believe he's got bust written all over him. I definitely think he's the kind of guy that the Spurs brass avoid because he's got very little upstairs.

I obviously love Tony. But I'm biased as .

Nate Wolters is interesting. I think dude might surprise people.


Yeah I'm just on the Tony Snell bandgwagon. I hope the Spurs are too.

[Man In Black]

Franklin is a bulldozing Ginobili. For reals. He's a big game player who wills his team to compete and find a way to get it done.



You're New Mexico Love is getting the best of you Manny. But then again, I too am biased when it comes to Franklin. Now if only Chase hit more shots, then SDSU would have won league.

But I don't have an issue with either Snell or Franklin.

The Chart shows Franklin as NOT A BUST.

[MannyIsGod]

He's got very little upstairs. He's a whiny . There's no doubt he's got some physical talent but he's a moron. He does like this: http://larrybrownsports.com/college-...picture/122413, lies about it, then uses the race card to try to get out of it. Don't compare that to Manu, please.

[ducks]

booner shot 43% from three point land this postseason

booner used like he was this year was ok
booner killed mem

[MannyIsGod]

And I fully admit to being biased as against Franklin. that guy. But its more Franklin hate than SDSU hate. I loved the Kawhi pick from day one and I love Kawhi now.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Franklin looks like a garbage bucket guy without any offensive moves to his repertoire. Probably gonna be a good defender, but it's just going to be garbage buckets and defense. I think we can do better.

[Man In Black]

And I fully admit to being biased as against Franklin. that guy. But its more Franklin hate than SDSU hate. I loved the Kawhi pick from day one and I love Kawhi now.

It wouldn't be the first time the Spurs have added a player that you didn't like

No, he has moves. Any player that is primary in a Steve Fisher Offense has to be more than just a garbage bucket guy. But since highlights is all you ever find on youtube, your perceptions based off of that doesn't give you a full picture. Conference Player of the year, Franklin's got skills all over the place.

Garbage buckets and Defense doesn't equate to a player being in among the league leaders in multiple catergories for both offense and defense. Let's compare Snell and Franklin since they are in the same conference:
http://www.themwc.com/sports/m-baskb.../confldrs.html

Scoring
Franklin # 3 at 17.0 Per
Snell #13 at 12.5 Per

Franklin Made 169 Total FGs. Of those makes,42 were 3 pointers. He also got the most makes at the FT line at 180 FT's Made.

Snell Made 144 Total FGs. Of thos makes, 64 were 3 pointers. He also made 86 FT's for the season.

Rebounding
Franklin # 2 at 9.5 Per
Snell Not in the Top 20

Field Goal Percentage
Franklin #7 at 41.3
Snell Not in Top 8

Assists
Franklin #7 at 3.3
Snell #9 at 2.9

FT%
Franklin #4 at 78.6%
Snell Not in Top 10

Steals
Franklin #2 1.6 Per
Snell Not in Top 10

3PFG%
Neither Franklin or Snell are in the Top 5

3PFG Made
Snell #7 64 Made
Franklin Not in Top 10 He made 42.

Blocked Shots
Franklin #7 24 Blocks .7
Snell Not in Top 10

Assists/TO Ratio
Franklin #7
109 Assists 3.3 Avg
112 Turnovers 3.4 Avg
1.0 Ratio

Snell not in Top 7

Offensive Rebounds
Neither Snell or Franklin are in Top 10

Defensive Rebounds
Franklin #1 at 256 7.8 Avg
Snell Not in Top 10

Minutes Played
Franklin at #7 at 33.1 Minutes Played
Snell Not in Top 10



http://www.themwc.com/sports/m-baskb.../confldrs.html

[MannyIsGod]

In a head to head comparison there's no way Snell comes out ahead. Why though? Because Franklin was the 1st option in a team with much less depth. Tony Snell on the other hand was sometimes the primary option but sometimes the 4th. The Lobos were simply a much more balanced team. I'll give Franklin being a better rebounder. Maybe a better finisher too. But I'd give Tony the edge in on ball defense, ball handling, shooting, and they're pretty much equal in creating for team mates. They're different but I"d say they're relatively equal overall.

Where I give Tony the huge edge is mentally. Franklin is not mentally strong.

PS I never said he was a garbage bucket guy

[spurs10]

Don't know much about these guys, so I appreciate the info..

[MannyIsGod]

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...ranklin-1.html
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...y-snell-1.html

If you want stats to compare the two look there. Relative conference rankings really don't tell the story at all.

[Man In Black]

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...ranklin-1.html
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...y-snell-1.html

If you want stats to compare the two look there. Relative conference rankings really don't tell the story at all.

The garbage bucket quote was from the post BELOW yours.
The chart is from Wages of WIN and the equations there have Franklin as Great and Snell as BUST. But having said that, it's about the Team finding players who will buy into the systems and winning with players that other teams overlook.

Also in sheer terms of stat ac ulation, Franklin has more ac ulated than Snell does based off of the links you provided.
Franklin Shows up in 39 categories
Snell Shows up in 13 categories

[cd021]

Uh, yes the big man rotation IS a problem. Any rotation that includes Bonner & Diaw is seriously undersized and underskilled. I don't consider Leonard a big, though he is clearly the 2nd best rebounder on the team. Baynes is an up and comer, which is good. However with Blair on the way out, that makes 3 spots along the frontline that need to be upgraded. Let's also remember that Duncan is 37, not 27. This group is in desparate need of an infusion of youth.

Not a problem. Splitter is still improving at 28 he still has a ways to go before he hits his ceiling. He has already drastically improved his FT shooting, something that was his biggest weakness. He needs to board better but he was apart of the Spurs starting lineup that had the best defensive rating in the NBA. Him and Duncan protect the rim very well. Diaw can legitimately play both spots. He needs to be more aggressive more of the time but can defend the post and the P&R. He is also a accurate 3pt shooter and attack the rim off the dribble. Blair and Bonner are likely gone. Baynes may be in line for minutes at Center next season after a full camp.

He's athletic & strong and could be a nice presence in our bench unit. We need one more player but its more likely to come from Free Agency. Jermaine Oneal, Speights, Mosgov, or Martin . Probably a cheap experienced player to round out our front line. Leonard will probably play the 4 more often. Especially late in close games. If he can attack the rim more off the dribble or post up other SF's playing small ball 4s. We could have a very good small ball unit and as you said he is a great boarder so we won't lose any boards going small.