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They just drafted two guards, and they still have Freddette and Thomas. I don't think they're going to be fighting too hard to keep him, especially if someone offers them some asset in a sign-and-trade.
the kings did pick his Qualifying Offer which is almost 7M. I like the guy, but would the Spurs really give him 10M?
They just drafted two guards, and they still have Freddette and Thomas. I don't think they're going to be fighting too hard to keep him, especially if someone offers them some asset in a sign-and-trade.
what sucks is that we don't really have any assets for their team.
We can always offer a 2014 1st round pick.
It's not a normal trade where they expect to get equal value. I think of it like restricted free agency in the NFL. Essentially, you're just paying for them to not match the offer. Sort of like how the Clippers paid the Celtics to let Rivers out of his contract.
I can see teams like the Suns, Pistons, and Mavs going after Evans if they strike out
with their first/second free agent options. After re-signing Manu and Splitter, Spurs
should have around $8 mil. Those teams could easily outbid Spurs.
Yes because Spurs late first round picks have high value.
In 2014? Maybe more than normally.
I'm warming to the idea of Tyreke for around $10m. All depends on whether he was part of the chemistry problem in Sacramento or just caught up in it. We've seen players like JJ Hickson excel once they're out of that horrible locker room.
^Yes you can't underestimate how much better and more motivated guys are when they play for a good team. When your team is constantly garbage and your HC sucks, you continue doing the same thing and making the same mistakes. he was selfish in Sacramento because there were very few good players on their squad who could score the ball. He was their best option, so naturally he's going to take a lot of shots. Put him in the Spurs system and let him flourish. It would likely take a $9-10 million offer though because the Kings will match anything less imo.
Spurs are going to have to overpay, but I think 10M may be a bit much. Then again Zach Lowe had another good piece on Grantland about how the new CBA will impact the free agency landscape this year. The part that stood out, which is relevant to whether Spurs would offer Evan 10M, is:
"Anxiety about the new CBA and excitement over future free-agency classes will change the market in ways we don't yet understand. That's where West's contract comes in. A lot of executives view that deal as a potential model for second- and third-tier free agents going forward: "We'll offer you a nice annual salary, provided you sign a very short contract." We already saw a bit of that last season, with the Celtics (Kevin Garnett), Clippers (Jamal Crawford), Hornets (Robin Lopez), Suns (Michael Beasley), and Rockets (both Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin) either pushing for non-guaranteed years on the back end of contracts or signing desirable young players (Lin and Asik) to three-year deals instead of longer ones.
Teams will push hard for shorter deals, even with quality players, and if they win that battle, it will have profound implications for team-building each summer. Guys like Andre Iguodala and Josh Smith are probably above this treatment, but lesser light veterans such as Ellis, Tiago Splitter, Carl Landry, Al Jefferson, and many others provide interesting test cases. All have flaws, but all could help in the right context, and those teams might overpay for that help if they know it becomes expiring help almost upon signing. [Footnote 7]
[Footnote 7]. Many of these guys might balk at two-year offers, which is kind of the point. Can they do better? And where is the line between those who can do better and those who can't? All of this evokes a popular refrain from NBA front-office sources: "It only takes one asshole." As in: It only takes one team to increase a player's market value to unreasonable levels."
I'm fine with him for 10 mil. If he wasn't playing for a dysfunctional franchise (I would know, I'm a Raiders fan), his price tag would have been way higher right now. He's that talented. in 2 years he'll be considered underpaid
$10M is too much. Evans would be great but we can't overpay.
we need to improve... and if we're serious about that we're going to have to open our pocketbooks fellas.
We could have a lot of room if we dont give Tiago a QO
lol you must be new to the spurs
You must have missed that few years with Richard Jefferson and his extension.
From the Hoopsrumors.com website, citing the Sacracmento Bee:
- New Kings GM Pete D'Alessandro is promising an "aggressive" approach to the offseason, as Ailene Voisin of the Sacramento Bee observes. The Kings won't simply let restricted free agent Tyreke Evans go without matching his offer or working out a sign-and-trade, writes Voisin, who pegs his market value at between $8MM and $10MM per year.
That makes no sense. They just drafted a top guard prospect. They are not bringing Evans back. I do think they try hard to work out a S&T though to get something to keep him from just walking. Next years first rounder for Evans? I think it would be worth it.
There are some red flags....
Nocioni was his teammate and said he had a bad at ude: http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba-gossip-...a-bad-at ude
Antoine Wright was a teammate and said he had a bad work ethic: http://johnclay.bloginky.com/2011/06...y-really-bad/#
At one point after his rookie season, Jonathan Givony of Draftexpress and others reported that he was out of shape and overweight: http://offtherecordsports.com/2011/1...evans-got-fat/
He has improved his FG%, which is a good sign, but he's done that by taking fewer bad shots (another criticism that scouts mention), not by improving his jump shooting. He's clearly talented, but I just don't see him being sold on coming to the Spurs to platoon with Green, Ginobili, Kawhi, and Parker. He's not the kind of character the Spurs typically invest big dollars in. My bet is he goes to the highest bidder, which most likely won't be the Spurs.
More red flags: On a terrible Sacramento team that finished the season 28-54, Evans finished the season with an on court/off court rating of -0.7. In the previous season, he was -2.6.
Contrast that with Mike Dunleavy, whose Milwaukee team finished 38-44, and whose on court/off court rating was +7.5.
Al Farouq Aminu's New Orleans team also finished with a dismal record of 27-55, but Aminu, an athletic player with a poor jump shot, finished at +4.3.
I don't think +/- numbers are the end all and be all of basketball stats, but there is something suspect about a young talented player on a terrible team that doesn't make the team noticeably better when he's on the court... why are mid level players like Aaron Afflalo, Chase Budinger, Carlos Delfino, etc., able to make their teams slightly better, while Evans can't?
Yeah, I'm not sure if they are sayings they will match anything in the 8-10m range or if they're saying that's what it will take to pry him away. If the former, time for us to speculate about on their player.
not sure i'd give a multiyear 7milion per year tbh..
If they trade him into our cap space for like a second round pick, they get a trade exception in the amount of his salary to use for one year. That's an asset.
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