We should instead believe that big fat idiot that the prosecution put on the stand last week. She's the reason the gene pool needs more chlorine. That's not a racial comment, but if you believe it is, I don't give a .
i don't think its a racist comment at all. she isn't very articulate, i don't know if it was the nerves of being a 19 year old key witness to a big media case and having to to live with knowing she was the last person tray spoke with that night. but whatever the case i would take her word over a wife beater/killer.
don't think anyone's gene pool needs chlorine because a 19 year old folded under pressure.
there is a woman in florida serving a 20 year sentence for firing a warning shot at her abusive husband in self defense. meanwhile cowardman is going to get off from killing a unarmed teen. i hope minorities are paying attention to what is happening.
I'm sure blacks like TM know "what is happening", and it gives them a defensive chip on their shoulder, as in the case of TM suspecting GZ for stalking him because TM was an innocent black young male in a hoodie.
It's hilarious how the gun-fellating, blood-thirsty right wingers here love to remove GZ-murdering-TM from the racist US society blacks have lived in for 400 years.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 06-30-2013 at 11:14 AM.
All the stuff about the hyper vigilant, racial profiling, wannabe cop vs the wannabe thug being followed by a creepy ass cracka is irrelevant.
What matters is whether a person is justified in using deadly force when they are being grounded and pounded into a sidewalk.
Well, when your first instinct is to use fists instead of words, you can end up dying, needlessly.
I understand that many of you posters lead a sheltered life, are not very intelligent and like some animals in the wild you will live & die within 5 square miles of where you were born…I get that and I want to be respectful of that…But I know that there are a some posters on this forum who wish to keep an open mind and to them I would ask for a brief moment try to think outside of the box…
Tray was not on someone’s lawn he was on a public easement…
Zimmerman at no point identified himself as a neighborhood watch person…
The only reason a coward like Zimmerman followed Tray was because he was carrying a loaded handgun safety off...
Zimmerman has no police training & poor communication skills…Zimmerman is a complete loser and could not make it on any police department in the United States…A real police officer would of talked to Tray, figure out who he was, what he was doing there & the encounter would of been over…
yea that situation is true when faced against a gun toting coward. i could have sworn tray asked "why are you following me" first.
i wonder if cowardman's supporters will still donate to his relief fund when he is slapped with the civil lawsuit. i will be interested in seeing how far their support for cowardly actions go.
GZ is not on trial for being a loser
he's on trial because he is a neurotic loser
Irrelevant. It wasn't that martin was trespassing, but that he stopped and was looking through the windows, wasn't walking to avoid the rain. He was just strolling. This su ion was later confirmed to be warranted since trayvon was caught in HS with stolen jewelry like wedding bands, rings, necklaces in his back pack, with a burglary tool.
You're missing alot of info here, mainly that John Good the prosecution's witness did actually see the confrontation once it escalated stating that Martin was on top beating zimmerman.
Disagree it's not relevant. I suspect it might not make much of a difference on the criminal trial, but I'm not sold you can just brush it off on a civil one.
Yeah, I saw that. But arguably this confrontation doesn't start if little George does what he's told, doesn't follow this guy, and let actual professionals handle it.
But beyond that, AFAIK, no witness can conclusively say what happened and who started what as far as the actual confrontation. That works better for the guy that's still alive. The other guy can't tell his side of the story.
That's why I'm pretty positive GZ will walk.
Yea where can this info be found?
All the Traybonz supporters keeps spewing this "innocent widdle child going for a wak to da store for milk and koookies".
The reality of it is we're unlikely to know what really happened, or how this escalated. So while I personally don't think either guy was a saint here, I just can't go Creepn here taking sides, tbh
Lets look at the facts irrespective of what zimmerman has said.
1. zimmerman's vehicle was parked on the curve of the street almost near the entrance of the unit of townhomes where the shooting occurred.
2. at 7:11:33 pm zimmerman tells the non emergency operator that martin is fleeing into the town homes to which george admits to in that direction that martin was heading.
3. 7:16-7:17 pm Rachel makes the last call with trayvon before the phone went dead and the fight started around this time.
What we know is that the shooting occured near the mouth of the entrance of the townhomes close to zimmerman's truck. That's 5 min's that passed between the time zimmerman lost sight of martin and the fight occured.
If you claim that zimmerman was the one who initially agressed. then why did the confrontation happen closer to his vehicle, once martin already took off. This evidence is consistent with GZ's claim that TM came back to confront him as he was walking back to his car after walking further to look for the street sign on the adjacent street. If Zimmerman followed martin any further, the confrontation would have either happened earlier than 5min after martin got away, or near the house of the Martins.
Seeing how we both been watching the same trial and you continue to bring up distortions that have already been clarified, shows that you have no interest in real justice. You're an example of an irrational person that is caricaturized in your culture.
Too call you a coon is an understatement.
In October, a school police investigator said he saw Trayvon on the school surveillance camera in an unauthorized area “hiding and being su ious.” Then he said he saw Trayvon mark up a door with “W.T.F” — an acronym for “what the f---.” The officer said he found Trayvon the next day and went through his book bag in search of the graffiti marker.
Instead the officer reported he found women’s jewelry and a screwdriver that he described as a “burglary tool,” according to a Miami-Dade Schools Police report obtained by The Miami Herald. Word of the incident came as the family’s lawyer acknowledged that the boy was suspended in February for getting caught with an empty bag with traces of marijuana, which he called “irrelevant” and an attempt to demonize a victim.
Trayvon’s backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described silver wedding bands and earrings with diamonds.
Trayvon was asked if the jewelry belonged to his family or a girlfriend.
“Martin replied it’s not mine. A friend gave it to me,” he responded, according to the report. Trayvon declined to name the friend.
Trayvon was not disciplined because of the discovery, but was instead suspended for graffiti, according to the report. School police impounded the jewelry and sent photos of the items to detectives at Miami-Dade police for further investigation.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...#storylink=cpy
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/2...t-trayvon.html
Again, your bringing more ignorance. Dispatchers are not cops nor are they any type of authority. Making a citizens arrest is not illegal itself, which zimmerman has never done, nor did he admit he was going to do, just following from a distance to see where the person was headed too.
What you're justifying is the use of force if someone is reporting you to the authorities and is following you where you are going. Which using force here is illegal. That itself is not self defense, to which the TM crowd is going so far as trying to say.
The fact whether zimmerman was armed or not shouldn't factor in since zimmerman had it concealed, it would be less likely that martin would have been anywhere near zimmerman if zimmerman was brandishing a weapon in plain sight.
In essence you're saying that GZ deserved to be aggressed, when he didn't break the law, and to which citizens in that area followed the same procedure (ex work contractors that followed a suspect from a distance) to help catch a burglar.
This is nothing more than thug worship.
I never made such claim about the dispatchers nor claimed there was anything illegal to what he did. Never said GZ 'deserved' anything.
I simply stated my opinion about the character. I have no problem with people disagreeing with it.
prosecution should have went for manslaughter, smh. welp, cowardman and his supporters are going to have to cough up a lot of mula for that civil suit at the end of the day.
any idea on where cowardman goes once he's found not guilty of killing a kid? will he go back to bumming it on his daddy's couch and walk the streets of florida without a worry in the world? or will he have to go into hiding? will one of his supporters offer him asylum on their couch?
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