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It doesn't!
Excuse my ignorance but just trying to understand all the articles and posts suggesting that the spurs could amnesty bonner to create more cap space.
The thing I dont understand and I need someone to explain is: they could have waive him and pay only the 1M guaranteed. Why would you guarantee the contract to later amnesty him and have to pay the full 4M.
I understand that the 1M guaranteed would have counted towards the cap and the 4M in amnesty wouldnt but still, dont find a reason in which amnestying Bonner could make sense.
Last edited by deibero; 07-01-2013 at 02:34 PM.
It doesn't!
because they ed up and amnestying/trading is the only options we have left. or maybe they just love bonner way too much that theyre keeping him.
Because armchair GMs said so!
By waiving they pay 1 million out of pocket, but it counts against the cap.
By amnestying they pay the full 3.9 million out of pocket, but none of it counts against the cap, freeing up an additional million.
Not a move I'd expect Holt to make
He might make it if hes drunk, and thats a high probability.
I understand and I mentioned that in my post, but still your paying 3M more for 1M additional in cap space. No logic whatsoever!
Another possibility is that Spurs and Bonner have agreed to push back the deadline for his contract to become fully guaranteed by a couple of weeks which will allow Spurs to amnesty Bonner without having to give him his full contract.
Why do you hate Bruno?
It's a move that helps the team at the expense of the owners pockets. Maybe holt is willing to spend as Timmy's career is coming to a close. One can (delusionally) hope, can't he?
Hasn't it already been reported that Bonners contract has become fully guaranteed?
I doubt it has been reported by someone in the know.
They could have made that logical assumption based on the fact the Spurs did not waive him. That doesn't mean the deadline was not pushed back (which may not have been reported yet). Doesn't necessarily make it likely that he isn't fully guaranteed at this point, but no news does not assure that as of yet.
The Spurs obviously find Bonner useful enough to keep around. Why cut a player you find useful for the purpose of creating additional capspace before you know whether or not you're going to find a player worthy of using that capspace on? The Spurs can amnesty Bonner anytime they want to. Basically keeping Bonner on past 6/29 costs $3 mil, but that $3 mil gives the Spurs some options they wouldn't have otherwise. Besides, depending how free agency plays out, "buying" an extra $1 mil of cap space for $3 mil could be a bargain.
Very smart post. Some teams pay a lot to get that extra cap space to make a run at free agents (giving up picks, good players or waiving good players for nothing). Like you said, the Spurs have until July 17th to amnesty Bonner which would give them more than enough time to decide on FA's considering you can sign on July 10th.
If there are no FA's available they like or that work out, the Spurs still value Bonner for 3M (because they would have had to pay 1M anyways, so the 3M more is the real cost) because he is useful. Not only that, you still have an expiring contract to trade and you can see shooters being used in trades all the time because they are valuable.
And the amnesty costing $3M is only if no one claims him from waivers. Bonner is a decent vet with a good at ude. I can see a team making a big at $1.5M-$2M for him which would lover the over-cost of an amnesty by that amount.
I don't get why Bonner would agree to getting cut later, and my guess is we would have heard about it now through league sources.
Because he would get more money for his troubles and why would you not agree to it?
If both AK and Ellis rumors are true, that could point to a Bonner amnesty.
Why keep yourself off the market to help out a team that doesn't want you anymore?
Even if just one is true, the Spurs would have to amnesty Bonner to have the cap space (unless they traded players away without taking money back i.e. Boris/Nando/Patty...)
Depends on whom they are going to keep. I don't think Splitter's staying is a lock.
Because it's only a couple weeks, so not going to change much considering you would likely be the last guy pursued in free agency any ways. Plus, the Spurs have taken care of Bonner so I would imagine he would help them out as long as it didn't really harm him. Plus, he would likely get a little extra money from the Spurs for his troubles.
True, I am operating under the assumption Manu is back and Tiago is more likely than not.
How much would make it worth it?
Serious question.
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