ESPN Stein: Spurs have AK47 in their sights

[FkLA]

Difficult to make happen minutes wise if we bring Gino back. Can't see it working out unless Gino is done.

Let Neal walk. Give Ellis minutes at the 1 and 2 and Manu at the 2 and 3. There should be plenty of minutes to go around, might even do Manu some good to play off the ball tbh. Id keep Splitter over Gortat, think hes a better fit...especially on pick and rolls (both offensively and defensively).

[look_at_g_shred]

Ellis in SA is a 6MOY candidate imho.

[FkLA]

Would be a potent bench but Ellis won't take less money for a bench role.

Chuckers are innately selfish so he'll go to whoever pays him the most.

If he has a desire to be more than a chucker on bad teams come here (or Chicago). If not he wont.

Yeah, it always takes me a minute to remember that Crawford isn't horrible anymore. He used to be one of the worst chuckers in the league.

Yeah, people dont seem to realize how valuable these chuckers can be on good teams if they are tamed.

[Nathan89]

Let Neal walk. Give Ellis minutes at the 1 and 2 and Manu at the 2 and 3. There should be plenty of minutes to go around, might even do Manu some good to play off the ball tbh. Id keep Splitter over Gortat, think hes a better fit...especially on pick and rolls (both offensively and defensively).

Splitter didn't do squat on the pnr offensively in the playoffs. When Kawhi and tony plays 38-40 minutes in the playoffs there wouldn't be much left for Manu and Ellis.

[FkLA]

Splitter didn't do squat on the pnr offensively in the playoffs. When Kawhi and tony plays 38-40 minutes in the playoffs there wouldn't be much left for Manu and Ellis.

I dont think they played that much in the playoffs until the last few finals games. I just think itd be nice to have an alternative when Tony and the rest of the offense are struggling. Thats what ideally Manu Shouldve been but hes gotten old.

[Spurs Brazil]

@WojYahooNBA
San Antonio is finalizing a five year, $45 million contract extension for center Tiago Splitter, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Well, I don't think we have money for AK47 now

[Buddy Holly]

@WojYahooNBA
San Antonio is finalizing a five year, $45 million contract extension for center Tiago Splitter, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Well, I don't think we have money for AK47 now

8 million plus 5 million (my guess on manu) leaves 5 million left in cap space and 8 if Bonner is amnestied.

[Kindergarten Cop]

@WojYahooNBA
San Antonio is finalizing a five year, $45 million contract extension for center Tiago Splitter, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Well, I don't think we have money for AK47 now

Way too early to tell at this point. There are so many factors that need to play out to know for sure (i.e. How much will it take to sign Manu?, Will Bonner be amnestied?, How much will AK sacrifice to sign with a Championship contender? etc)

[spurraider21]

Get Bruno in here. What can we give Manu/Ak with the new splitter deal in place?

[Bruno]

@WojYahooNBA
San Antonio is finalizing a five year, $45 million contract extension for center Tiago Splitter, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Well, I don't think we have money for AK47 now

Nope, it changes actually nothing. The key to get AK47 is Manu taking a paycut. Splitter isn't a factor in that situation.

Another possibility would be Kirilenko signing a MLE deal ($22M/4 years).

[Spurs Brazil]

Nope, it changes actually nothing. The key to get AK47 is Manu taking a paycut. Splitter isn't a factor in that situation.

Another possibility would be Kirilenko signing a MLE deal ($22M/4 years).

Thanks!

[monkeypunk]

Nope, it changes actually nothing. The key to get AK47 is Manu taking a paycut. Splitter isn't a factor in that situation.

Another possibility would be Kirilenko signing a MLE deal ($22M/4 years).

Thanks Bruno!

[Bruno]

To explain a little what I said, Splitter current cap hold (his cost against the cap) is $7.5M. So, even if Spurs and Tiago have agreed to a contract that will pay him $8M or $9M in his first season, they can just wait to officially sign him and then go against the cap.

For Ginobili, it's different because his cap hold is around $19M. Spurs can't keep his cap hold and have cap space.

[Mugen]

To explain a little what I said, Splitter current cap hold (his cost against the cap) is $7.5M. So, even if Spurs and Tiago have agreed to a contract that will pay him $8M or $9M in his first season, they can just wait to officially sign him and then go against the cap.

For Ginobili, it's different because his cap hold is around $19M. Spurs can't keep his cap hold and have cap space.

Does that mean that the Spurs have to get something done with Manu relatively quickly to go after AK?

[Juan]

To explain a little what I said, Splitter current cap hold (his cost against the cap) is $7.5M. So, even if Spurs and Tiago have agreed to a contract that will pay him $8M or $9M in his first season, they can just wait to officially sign him and then go against the cap.

For Ginobili, it's different because his cap hold is around $19M. Spurs can't keep his cap hold and have cap space.

So the Spurs can't sign any FA's until Manu is signed?

[DesignatedT]

To explain a little what I said, Splitter current cap hold (his cost against the cap) is $7.5M. So, even if Spurs and Tiago have agreed to a contract that will pay him $8M or $9M in his first season, they can just wait to officially sign him and then go against the cap.

For Ginobili, it's different because his cap hold is around $19M. Spurs can't keep his cap hold and have cap space.

I thought since Tiago's qualifying offer was 4.9M than that was his cap hold.

[Bruno]

Does that mean that the Spurs have to get something done with Manu relatively quickly to go after AK?

If Spurs don't know what kind of contract Manu will get, they can't really go after Kirilenko with more than MLE offers.

So the Spurs can't sign any FA's until Manu is signed?

Signed or renounced.

[Bruno]

I thought since Tiago's qualifying offer was 4.9M than that was his cap hold.

Nope, his cap hold is 190% of his 2012-2013 salary.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q37

[stephen jackson]

and the spurs and manu wont talk for at least a week gunna be a slow week

[DesignatedT]

Nope, his cap hold is 190% of his 2012-2013 salary.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q37

Thanks.

[lurker23]

If there's a possibility Kirilenko could take the MLE, that makes bringing Neal back more likely (and based on a report from Woj, the Spurs are trying to re-sign both Manu and Neal).

Just doing some hypothetical math in my head...$41.6 mil already on the books, plus $9mil for Splitter, $6mil for Manu, $3mil for Neal, $5.2mil for Kirilenko, equals about $64.8 million. Even adding in some minimum contracts, Spurs should be able to stay under luxury tax comfortably.

[timvp]

To explain a little what I said, Splitter current cap hold (his cost against the cap) is $7.5M. So, even if Spurs and Tiago have agreed to a contract that will pay him $8M or $9M in his first season, they can just wait to officially sign him and then go against the cap.

Are you sure? I thought once these types of agreements leak to the press, the NBA doesn't allow you to manipulate the order the contracts are signed to maximize cap space. I know some teams in the past had been busted for doing that and the NBA took away the corresponding cap space even when the teams tried to wait to make it official.

But maybe that has changed .........

[ElNono]

Manu mentioned "these days" (as in the next couple of days) on his last tweet, so I suspect something is already cooking there between the Spurs and Manu's agent Herb Rudoy.

[ElNono]

Are you sure? I thought once these types of agreements leak to the press, the NBA doesn't allow you to manipulate the order the contracts are signed to maximize cap space. I know some teams in the past had been busted for doing that and the NBA took away the corresponding cap space even when the teams tried to wait to make it official.

But maybe that has changed .........

did you get my PM?

[Bruno]

Are you sure? I thought once these types of agreements leak to the press, the NBA doesn't allow you to manipulate the order the contracts are signed to maximize cap space. I know some teams in the past had been busted for doing that and the NBA took away the corresponding cap space even when the teams tried to wait to make it official.

But maybe that has changed .........

I'm sure at 99%. The team getting caught cheating was with a first round pick counting for 100% of the rookie scale while there were a verbal agreement to pay him 120% of the scale.