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    Lol I was definitely not "stoked" about that. I understood the move though.

    I've already said that I would re-sign Tiago. Doesn't mean he isn't overpayed and overvalued. It is what it is.

    Just pointing out facts.
    I understand. But he's not overpaid nor overvalued when considering the NBA big man market.

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    Where was his defense whenever Duncan took a seat during the finals?

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    Realistically, the Spurs couldn't let Tiago sign an offer sheet. Teams signing RFA's to offer sheets usually frontload those deals to maximize the cap hit in the first year to try and scare off the original team from matching. If the Spurs wanted to keep Tiago and try to come away with some capspace this year, they couldn't let Tiago sign an offer sheet. The Spurs kind of got backed into a corner here.
    Yeah - I think this post nails whats happening here. I'm not particularly happy about it but I can understand the situation.

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    Overpaid, but I don't think anyone here was expecting anything less than 8m/year.

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    It's not a bad contract. If Dwight goes back to LA, then we still need 2 good bigs that can match up with the bigs in LA and Memphis. With Splitter the Spurs can do it. I think if they are able to sign AK47 and Manu that'd be solid. In a series against the Heat being able to sit Splitter and start Ak47 next to Tim would be fantastic.

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    "Indiana, the leagues best defense, allowed 96.6 points per 100 possessions. The Spurs allowed 96.2 points per 100 possessions with Splitter on the floor. They reverted to average when he sat out (102.3 pts/100)."

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    I understand. But he's not overpaid nor overvalued when considering the NBA big man market.
    I'm glad he's back. Lets just hope he continues to improve so he can log more than 4 minutes in an NBA Finals elimination game.

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    "Indiana, the leagues best defense, allowed 96.6 points per 100 possessions. The Spurs allowed 96.2 points per 100 possessions with Splitter on the floor. They reverted to average when he sat out (102.3 pts/100)."
    Watch as everybody under your post blatantly ignores that.

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    Way to much money for Splitter. 9 mil/year for a guy averaging 10 and 6? LMAO! ...lets sign Manu to 8 mil/yr while we're at it.

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    ...lets sign Manu to 8 mil/yr while we're at it.
    It's possible.

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    fair deal. good signing.

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    Splitter isn't a stat guy. Rattling off his numbers misses most of his production on the court.

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    Threads like this is why ST rules.

    I like it, but I'm also hopeful Splitter can improve. Keeping the ball high, developing a Chip aided jumper, etc.

    I am a not worried that he was signed for Primo Dinero, and hasn't proven he can play true starter minutes over the course of an entire NBA season....last year was his healthiest year, and we've seen that happen with contract years many times.

    A risk, but a worthy one IMO.

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    My main concerns are:

    - Its becoming more and more obvious this the NBA is going to be a small ball league. Every year bigmen like Tiago become less valuable to a team.
    - Hes only situationally useful and if the above point continues to come true then those situations will only decline.
    - Dude is charmin soft and thats not going to change. Put him up against someone he can just play like a tall pole and succeed and he will. IE Memphis. But against teams like GS and Miami? He'll suffer and become pretty much useless because you can guard him with a point guard (still my biggest beef with him)

    That said, there's probably a case to be made that you can't have an effective Duncan at this stage of his career against many teams without Tiago. Also, Tiago eating up regular season minutes IS important in order to maintain Duncan for the post season.

    Its not a terrible deal for the Spurs but its not a very good one either. This is more like taking the ugly girl to the prom because you really don't have any options. At least you're going to get some, I guess.

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    good job by the front office not to wait for splitter to get overpaid. We still have a lot of capspace.

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    tbqh, we're not paying him 4 years 36 mil for what he did for us in the second half of last season. We're paying him 4 years 36 mil for what we hope he's going to do in the next 4, it's an obvious gamble, it's either pay up or see him walk, the spurs chose the first option and put out the $$$ for the gamble.

    Now let's see if it pays off. Stop crying like p*ssies, it's not even that bad a contract, idk what you guys were hoping for LOL

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    * ty basketball take*

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    Also Tiago needs Manu more than any other person on this team. Manu's decline will hurt Tiago more than any other person on this team.

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    9M a year for a player who logged 4 minutes in game 7 of the NBA finals.
    That's a coach's decision. I'm sure Tiago would have liked to play more.

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    big men currently under contracts between 7 & 10 million this season

    deandre jordan ~ 10 mil
    andrea bargnani ~ 10 mil
    jevale mcgee ~ 10 mil
    tim duncan ~ 10 mil
    anderson varejao ~ 9 mil
    andris bierdrins ~ 9 mil
    kendrick perkins ~ 9 mil
    omer asik ~ 8 mil
    ryan anderson ~ 8 mil
    ersan ilyasova ~ 8 mil
    marcin gortat ~ 8 mil
    al harrington ~ 8 mil


    perhaps there's still hope for that sign & trade with gortat?

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    I'm glad he's back. Lets just hope he continues to improve so he can log more than 4 minutes in an NBA Finals elimination game.
    Hopefully Pop can improve as well in Finals elimination games tbh. Since he was just as much an impediment as Tiago in the last few games of that series.

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    Good signing IMO. He's getting overpaid a bit, but that is the nature of big man contracts in the NBA. People are reading too much into his Finals numbers. It was a bad series for him as he had no good match ups. Going forward, I expect Miami to patch up their front line with some size (possibly Oden) and Splitter may become even more valuable in the future. People forget how good he was in the regular season, and against Memphis and LA. Splitter has also played well against Dwight Howard, who could become a division rival next year.

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    because you can guard him with a point guard (still my biggest beef with him)
    yup.

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    i believe splitter did get overpaid but not by much..

    i'd like to sign oden for the minimum or even slightly over pay him with his worth if he brings us that rim protector presence

    between miami and san antonio, i could understand him picking miami BUT why would he play there when they already have Chris Anderson?

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    Watch as everybody under your post blatantly ignores that.
    Because everybody remembers his pathetic performance in the finals.It's the last thing he did previous season and it's all that sticks in fans mind.It is what it is.

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