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    No but serious question. What's the difference between him and Splitter besides being slightly more mobile?

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    The Heat are heavy favorites to win the championship again, not just make the Finals. If Wade gets his knee right they will be there.
    Of course they are the favorites, but history is against them, that's all I'm saying. Chicago and Indiana will be tough for them again. And players rarely get healthier after 30. Wade clearly looks like a declining player.

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    Here's why I think AK47 is still in play: If you're the Spurs and Portland is reportedly offering Splitter a $36M over 4-year deal, why wouldn't you just call their bluff and then match if the Blazers actually follow through?

    The most logically reason why the Spurs wouldn't wait out Splitter's possible offer from the Blazers is to avoid Portland frontloading the deal ... which could then hurt San Antonio's chances of squeezing in another big salary this summer.

    The timing of Splitter's deal tells me the Spurs are going to do more than just stand pat. Otherwise, there'd be no reason to be in a rush.
    That's true. Spurs have alot of options at this point. They can still do a sign and trade for someone like Ellis. Seriously, if the deals Red and Martin are the base for 2 tier SGs, then Ellis price just dropped to 7 mil a year. Bucks at this point need a backup PF and SG, and the Spurs could trade Bonner and Neal and throw in a future 1st as well.

    Spurs just need to resign Neal, Blair and Manu and push themselves over the cap so that the MLE and LLE take effect for them. They can turn around and trade Bonner and Neal to the Bucks for Ellis and then offer AK47 the full MLE on a 3 year deal. Deal Blair to Atl for peanuts or rights to one of their Euros that will never come over at this point.

    The Spurs worked their cap last year so that they had the Full MLE and LLE and where able to be right under the Luxury Tax. I am sure they are devising the same plan for this offseason as well. It will be interesting to see what moves they have up their sleeves within the next week.

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    No but serious question. What's the difference between him and Splitter besides being slightly more mobile?
    AK is a better passer. Much better perimeter defender and has great defensive instincts. Better at slashing than Splitter is as well. Is capable of knocking down non-layups.

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    AK is a better passer. Much better perimeter defender and has great defensive instincts. Better at slashing than Splitter is as well. Is capable of knocking down non-layups.

    Understandable, but is he capable of keeping the likes of Durant and LeBron in front of him? Because history isn't necessarily on his side as far as that goes.

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    AK is a better passer. Much better perimeter defender and has great defensive instincts. Better at slashing than Splitter is as well. Is capable of knocking down non-layups.
    Don't forget he doesn't get blocked by the rim.

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    Understandable, but is he capable of keeping the likes of Durant and LeBron in front of him? Because history isn't necessarily on his side as far as that goes.
    He wouldn't necessarily need to. That's Leonard's job.

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    I'd put the Spurs chances of signing AK at <10%.

    If they're going to then it needs to get done within the next 24-48 hours tbh before the teams that don't sign Howard start throwing out stupid money.

    Kirilenko just doesn't seem to me like the type of player that's "over himself" and can accept a reduced role on the Spurs.

    Hope I'm wrong though.

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    He wouldn't necessarily need to. That's Leonard's job.

    Yes he would, Leonard cannot be the only player on this team capable of guarding elite scorers. Especially if you want his offensive production to increase. It's just not a recipe for success.

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    Understandable, but is he capable of keeping the likes of Durant and LeBron in front of him? Because history isn't necessarily on his side as far as that goes.
    No but serious question. What's the difference between him and Splitter besides being slightly more mobile?
    You obviously know nothing about him. So why are commenting his history?

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    Yes he would, Leonard cannot be the only player on this team capable of guarding elite scorers. Especially if you want his offensive production to increase. It's just not a recipe for success.
    kirilenko could do anything defensively that Diaw could and more, tbh
    and that includes solid work on bron

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    Yes he would, Leonard cannot be the only player on this team capable of guarding elite scorers. Especially if you want his offensive production to increase. It's just not a recipe for success.
    I don't see AK shutting down Lebron or Durant but he can definitely spell Leonard for about 15 minutes a game in the SF spot.

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    You obviously know nothing about him. So why are commenting his history?
    Dude I've been watching AK since his Matt Harpring, Mehmet Okur, and Carlos Boozer days. I'm very knowledgeable of what he can and can't do. That question was to see who really knew what attributes he could bring to the table besides his length everyone's so infatuated over.

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    kirilenko could do anything defensively that Diaw could and more, tbh
    and that includes solid work on bron

    Diaw's lateral quickness is very underrated, but you could be right. I don't know about in the post though but his length should be able to overcompensate for his lack of bulk, which Diaw used to his advantage.

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    I don't see AK shutting down Lebron or Durant but he can definitely spell Leonard for about 15 minutes a game in the SF spot.

    Yeah I believe he could if he plays with toughness.

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    Yeah I believe he could if he plays with toughness.
    I've never considered AK as a soft player. He seems to play with a lot of heart. Admittedly, I did not watch many Timberwolves games (they don't get a whole lot of air time). But from his days in Utah and for his national team, he seems to be a tough defender, although he has a skinny frame.

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    Nando and CoJo wont change anything imo. Nando has the same issue as old Manu does in that get bothered by the Heats athleticism when he runs the pick and roll. CoJo is too raw. As for Kawhi I agree that his touches should increase but not sure I would want him as our #2 playmaker just yet.

    Give me Monta Ellis tbh.
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    I'd put the Spurs chances of signing AK at <10%.

    If they're going to then it needs to get done within the next 24-48 hours tbh before the teams that don't sign Howard start throwing out stupid money.

    Kirilenko just doesn't seem to me like the type of player that's "over himself" and can accept a reduced role on the Spurs.

    Hope I'm wrong though.
    I think Kirilenko just wants to win at this point. The Wolves suck. He just came from CSKA Moscow where they won the Russian Championship and were 2nd in the Euroleague. He noted he wanted to play for a contending team and have a long term as well. And quite honestly, the Spurs would be the best fit for him. RC and Pop have a way of signing guys for less than market value. So I wouldn't be surprised in Kirilenko comes to the Spurs.

    Also helps that Pop speaks Russian as well.

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    I've never considered AK as a soft player. He seems to play with a lot of heart. Admittedly, I did not watch many Timberwolves games (they don't get a whole lot of air time). But from his days in Utah and for his national team, he seems to be a tough defender, although he has a skinny frame.

    I think that skinny frame gets him pushed around a lot. I've seen him defend Durant this season and on one play Durant basically manhandled him. I'll try to find the clip.

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    I've never considered AK as a soft player. He seems to play with a lot of heart. Admittedly, I did not watch many Timberwolves games (they don't get a whole lot of air time). But from his days in Utah and for his national team, he seems to be a tough defender, although he has a skinny frame.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcrZngbvj2I

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    I'd put the Spurs chances of signing AK at <10%.

    If they're going to then it needs to get done within the next 24-48 hours tbh before the teams that don't sign Howard start throwing out stupid money.

    Kirilenko just doesn't seem to me like the type of player that's "over himself" and can accept a reduced role on the Spurs.

    Hope I'm wrong though.
    I don't know, maybe AK47 being 32, and having the chance to play on a contender, he might realize the Spurs would be a pretty good place to play, irregardless if hes in a reduced role.

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    That's not even a basketball play. He just flat out shoved him and AK seemed to embellish it as he was looking for the foul call. I'm not saying you are wrong, but from this play I can't see how this shows how he gets manhandled.

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    Also helps that Pop speaks Russian as well.
    Learning how to say "4yr/32million" in Russian would help other GMs more tbh.

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    That's not even a basketball play. He just flat out shoved him and AK seemed to embellish it as he was looking for the foul call. I'm not saying you are wrong, but from this play I can't see how this shows how he gets manhandled.

    That was the only clip I could find. It was an ongoing ordeal throughout most of the game.

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    If he is doing that to AK that means AK is getting under his skin and not many players can do that to Durant.

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