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    it's actually 9 mil, and the chance to sign a good free agent gone too. Not good.
    Not necessarily. If needed Neal can be let to walk, Bonner can still be amnestied and the Spurs would have between $6.8-7.3 million in cap. All depending on how Splitters 1st year works out (they could in theory they could back load the deal, allowing for millions to be used else where. Duncan ) I assume Manu is being brought back for a salary of $5 million next season. Who knows he could return for the minimum ($1.4)and make us all look like jackasses for questioning the Spurs (that would make our potientail cap space of $10.4-$11 million). The Spurs also can us the MLE after we reach the cap, I believe.

    AK47 is still in play. OKC, Miami, Indiana, Clippers, Lakers, & GSW don't have cash to sign him Dallas, Altanta and Houston all are waiting on D12 and he may not be interested in signing with any of those 3 teams. He's 32 and has 11 seasons of NBA experience. He'd want to play for a contender I'd imagine, the Spurs are is only realistic option for that.

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    Dude is that a Nazi symbol?

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    Dude is that a Nazi symbol?

    maybe it's a wan

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    I do not think thatīs his market value at all.
    I think we are overpaying because we prefer a player that already knows the system over a player a bit better but that should be trained on it.
    i would go and offer splitter 30 millions over 4 seasons with a 5th season player option for 6 millions.
    Thatīs the same ammount and one more year and really reflects his value.
    After he choked on two consecutive closing series his marker value should not be over 7.5 millions.

    I expected us tosign and trade him for Gortat. But whatever... they are pretty similar.
    You're being very naive. Thats about exactly Splitters range. Portland has history of overpaying or trying to pry away players in RFAs (Milsap, Hibbert) 5 years, 45 million gives the spurs extra space to do spread out the money. For all we know he could know he could have a 1st year of $7 million freeing up an additional couple of million for other players.

    Splitter can back after that OKC and hit a 74% of his FT's. Miami was a bad match-up for him. Memphis was better and he came up big in key spots (game 3 specifically)He's 28 and a Center thats like at 24 year old guard. Alot of bigs like him play into their late 30's (Wallace, Camby, Thomas, O'neal, )

    I'm not sure the rules about trading a player after signing him (without S&T) Last season, Nets resigned Lopez to the max and he couldn't get moved to the deadline. AK47 is still in play and also a player like Al Aminu is a possibility. the Spurs off season is just beginning

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    U realize Splitter went from being a bench player to a pretty legit starter, next season I expect his improvements to continue.

    Spurs are banking on Splitter being great and being underpaid. Look at Parker, the guy makes 12 million despite being the 3rd best player in the league. It might look like we overpaid now but when its all said and done he might be underpaid, like Parker he obviously deserves max deal but doesnt have it because of Spurs smart management.

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    8-9 mil is exactly what most of us thought he was worth. Apparently so did his agent, the spurs, and probably all contending teams for him. It is what it is, the market spoke.
    Tim Duncan made 9 mil last year..

    10 and 6 gets you 9 mil a year in this league..

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    Just a little something to fire up the natives.
    I like him. He's big and physical. Slow as , but i like him.

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    U realize Splitter went from being a bench player to a pretty legit starter, next season I expect his improvements to continue.

    Spurs are banking on Splitter being great and being underpaid. Look at Parker, the guy makes 12 million despite being the 3rd best player in the league. It might look like we overpaid now but when its all said and done he might be underpaid, like Parker he obviously deserves max deal but doesnt have it because of Spurs smart management.
    He's a starter considering the other "bigs" they have.

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    Regardless of him getting blocked and embarrassed in the Finals, Splitter is a pretty good player. Awesome pick and roll player, and after being in the starting lineup, the Spurs defense bumped up to 3rd in the league. He does more than any of us will ever acknowledge, because he's not a dominant force. I, too, wish he was a banger down low that had some post game and blocked tons of shots, but that likely won't happen. Being that scrubs like Diop had big deals, this is a good one for Splitter. It's not his fault that the NBA market for guys over 6'10" demands a lot of money.

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    So how does this affect our cap space? Splitters cap hold was around $7.5M. I assume this isn't effective until the 10th which helps to maintain our cap space and helps to sign FA until then. Or does this shrink our cap space immediately? The order of the signings are important.
    I think he can't sign until like the 10th. So this is unofficial, I believe. If he was renounced then it would could immediately. The Spurs could still agree to sign another player even though they don't have the "cap" officially to do so. For all we know. Neal may be shown the door, Bonner can still be amnestied (during a brief period of 3 days). Manu could sign a really cheap deal (vet min., unlikely but no impossible) and we would have $10.4 million of cap space (assuming Splitters 1st season is $9 million, which it will likely be less). We still can use the MLE, I think after we go past the cap. That would be a $5 million chunk that we could use to sign a player or two.

    A similar situation was the Celtics last season, with Terry. They didn't have the physical cap but they agreed to a deal with Terry. They tried an S&T but Dallas didn't want guaranteed deals so they used their MLE after the moratorium was over.

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    Tiago is defensively excellent, very quick footed, and challenges shots well near the basket without fouling.

    How many in' years did Spurfans about getting a legitimate defensive-minded frontcourt presence to pair with Duncan? Finally one shows up, and when he starts next to Duncan, the Spurs end up in the NBA finals, one rebound away from a championship.

    Are ya in' blind?
    You stated that Tiago Splitter "is one of the best defensive big men" and you suggest that I'm blind?

    and, by the way, I would rather be blind that watch another minute of that worthless bag of playing for my team.

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    U realize Splitter went from being a bench player to a pretty legit starter, next season I expect his improvements to continue.

    Spurs are banking on Splitter being great and being underpaid. Look at Parker, the guy makes 12 million despite being the 3rd best player in the league. It might look like we overpaid now but when its all said and done he might be underpaid, like Parker he obviously deserves max deal but doesnt have it because of Spurs smart management.
    You better get ready to eat crow when this doesn't happen tbh.

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    He's a starter considering the other "bigs" they have.
    U don't have a 19.7 P.E.R for nothing. 56% FG% and 74% FT is very impressive. Also his numbers are repressed because he was a bench player until late December. He averaged only 25 minutes a game. 28-30 minutes a game next season could yield bigger production. 13pts, 7.5 rpg, and 1.5 blocks all seem feasible. That isn't that far off from Hibbert numbers this past season.

    He's a legit starter in the NBA. That is very clear.

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    What happens to the Spurs cap space? Now that Splitter is back, is all the cap space gone?

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    U don't have a 19.7 P.E.R for nothing. 56% FG% and 74% FT is very impressive. Also his numbers are repressed because he was a bench player until late December. He averaged only 25 minutes a game. 28-30 minutes a game next season could yield bigger production. 13pts, 7.5 rpg, and 1.5 blocks all seem feasible. That isn't that far off from Hibbert numbers this past season.

    He's a legit starter in the NBA. That is very clear.
    I don't see his minutes increasing that much. I think his averages were helped by the fact that Tim Duncan was beasting last year.

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    What happens to the Spurs cap space? Now that Splitter is back, is all the cap space gone?
    9.6 million left, Manu will take some of that and if they re-sign NEAL forget it.

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    Won't get enough playing time.
    While you might be right; Tiago is too much of a pussy to play more than 24 minutes a game, Timmy is getting old an needs his rest, Bonner's not really a big and Diaw needs his rest too. My point is that Baynes will get his chance. And considering that he (unlike Splitter and Bonner) actually has some explosiveness. Baynes rebounds far better than any Spur who isn't Tim.

    if Pop is too stubborn and arrogant to give this kid a chance, then he should entire along with Manu.

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    9.6 million left, Manu will take some of that and if they re-sign NEAL forget it.
    If that's true noway AK is in the picture

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    9.6 million left, Manu will take some of that and if they re-sign NEAL forget it.
    They key is amnestying Bonner... that's another $4m there...

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    Seriously whats the first year salary??? Does anybody have details of the annual salary each year??

    Or is it 9mil all 4 years?

    Geoff Sheen was saying Spurs still have quite a bit cap space...around 11 mil is that true?

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    While to might be right; Tiago is too much of a pussy to play more than 24 minutes a game, Timmy is getting old an needs his rest, Bonner's not really a big and Diaw needs his rest too. My point is that Baynes will get his chance. And considering that he (unlike Splitter and Bonner) actually has some explosiveness. Baynes rebounds far better than any Spur who isn't Tim.

    if Pop is too stubborn and arrogant to give this kid a chance, then he should entire along with Manu.
    He'll play limited stretches and not with the 1st or 2nd team, he'll be on the 3rd team when everyone else is looking to take shots so he won't get that many touches.

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    If Kirilenko and his camp are expressing interest, its literally re ed to not amnesty Bonner

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    If Kirilenko and his camp are expressing interest, its literally re ed to not amnesty Bonner
    Duh, he spreads the floor.

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