Spurs fan es about an average contract for a starting big while thinking that an Oden or a Baynes are viable options.
Don't forget also worrying about resigning Gary F'n Neal.
How Bonner is still being discussed as a hindrance in 2013 is beyond me tbh.
Not to belabor the point;
Timmy played in 69 games in 2012/2013 and will probably only play in 60 games this year (if there is any hope of keeping him fresh for the playoffs.
ter cannot play more than 24 minutes per game as he is just physically capable of doing more than that on a regular basis.
no one else on the roster, other than Baynes, can even begin to play like a post. After Timmy and Tiago we're gonna post up Bonner or Boris?
i think that after spending a few months with this team and a full Summer working with our coaches and trainers.... Baynes will take it to all of the bigs in camp. He has explosiveness, actual post moves, drive, desire and more talent than all of our "bigs", other than Timmy.
one things for sure; we're gonna find out soon enough
Why would they jump the gun? If they can reach an agreement with Kirilenko in principal, then they can rid themselves of Bonner and the more I think about it, the less I think it'll be via amnesty. The Hawks and Jazz, are two examples of teams with cap space (plus, it's unlikely either lands a big name) and a need for a stretch four and they're ran by former Spurs executives.
The other way to add an extra $1-1.5M in cap space, would be to trade either Mills or De Colo, to a team with the cap space to absorb their contract without sending any salary back. This especially makes sense if Neal is re-signed, since they'll have one guard too many anyway.
We're ed.
A couple of thoughts;
1) we just paid above average money to a below average player
2) we will all find out if Baynes is a viable talent ..... Soon enough.
Well if the 8 minutes Baynes played against that quitter Dwight Howard in the first round clincher isn't enough to convince you that he's a starting-caliber NBA center then I don't know what to tell you..........
I'm a fan of Bonner, think he's a good guy for the team, but in no way is he someone you can expect to win a championship as a second big. Not sure what happened there, maybe after the fourth championship we started to coast a bit in our player evaluations.
You must've just joined spur fandom in time for the 2013 finals, then. That's literally the only way you could fail to acknowledge the role that Tiago played in reversing the disastrous 2009-2011 era.
he's still young and there's a lot of upside. He will get better - and remember that without Splitter the Spurs would have probably never gotten to the Finals. I don't think this is a bad deal, despite the huge meltdown most people are having here.
Don't hate it, don't love it. Spurs paid market price for a big who shrinks to the occasion against the primary contenders for the next several years (OKC/Miami), and who gets no respect from the refs. But, he's a solid two-way player. IF he develops a reliable mid-range shot or learns how to handle small ball pressure D, he might actually outperform the contract.
What's kind of hilarious is the dumb s on RealGM laughing at us saying that Brendan Haywood or Feztus Ezeli would be the same or similar production for much cheaper
Dude has been playing professional basketball for over a decade...he's no longer young with upside. Maybe he learns to handle the blitz, but it's more likely he folds like a lawn chair. Maybe he pulls a Fab and develops a reliable J out of nowhere, but it's also possible his improvement ends at free throws.
Point is, I don't think you can count on improvement when someone has been playing as long as Tiago has...possible, but more likely he is what he's going to be at this point.
It's not about a lack of skill or the potential for development. It's his character. He's soft. Pau Gasol soft. Europeans are just soft, that's all there is to it. Smart, sure; but soft. Rare is the Euro who is hard-nosed and they are usually Eastern european. No amount of development is going to give him the balls a 7-foot man should have.
I think all of that had to do with a 31 year old Duncan still on the tail end of his prime.
LMFAOWhat's kind of hilarious is the dumb s on RealGM laughing at us saying that Brendan Haywood or Feztus Ezeli would be the same or similar production for much cheaperING DAMNIT THIS year man lol.
What is your opinion on extreme South Western Europeans, tbh?
para ser honesto, no me gusta
Tiago is worth it s. A good post defender (see mem & la series) and a excellent pick n roll defender (see GS series). He's also probably one of the best pick n roll bigman in the league. His weakness? rebounding and post play.
splitter isnt even european, he's from ing south america
South America is just Europe West, tbh.
Argentina = Spain West
Brazil = Portugal West
Besides, he played enough Euro-ball for the Euro to have fully infested him. He's as Euro as Euro gets.
I've given it a couple hours to sink in, and the more I think about it the more Tiago's signing is not that bad. We are merely judging Splitter based on his numbers this season, and it's clear that given around a solid 32-35 minutes a night he can produce pretty well. While I was at first infatuated with having a big man such as Marcin Gortat that didn't make soft hook shots, no big man on the free agency market outside of Al Jefferson has post moves compared to Splitter (yes, even Dwight). With that said, I hope Splitter takes this contract as a sign that the Spurs are going to juice every dollar out of him and make him man the up and stop being so soft.
Also, us being able to amnesty Bonner to get AK-47 would be fantastic; I'd trade a player that only shoots 3's and spreads the floor with mediocre defense with one that is able to shoot from any range and plays good defense. Take a second and imagine what the Finals would have been like if we had AK-47 and the small ball lineup that Spurs could use:
Parker
Danny Green
Ginobili
Kawhi Leonard
AK-47
Exactly but people associate his soft play with European players.
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