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    He can, but will he though?
    If he signs, he would be prepared to. Pop's not going to let a 32-year-old player who's never won anything dictate his rotations. Pop never promises anyone a starting spot.

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    People talk about Kirilenko being overpaid when he was with the Jazz. That could be true, but damn, Prime AK was something to behold.

    Working hard on both ends with a high motor.

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    If he signs, he would be prepared to. Pop's not going to let a 32-year-old player who's never won anything dictate his rotations. Pop never promises anyone a starting spot.
    I just hope he will consider signing here, right now I hate to say it but it looks like Bonner and Neal will be back too and we end up with same team. I would love to have an AK47.

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    DP.

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    He has Diaw-like passing skills no doubt.

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    This offseason is busted. Even if he wanted to be here, does Kirilenko help us really?

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    This offseason is busted. Even if he wanted to be here, does Kirilenko help us really?

    I was thinking the same, but it isn't busted. That's a quite harsh word to use.

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    Well, he is done in Minny. The max they can now offer him is the room exception that will give him a $5.4M/ 2 years.

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    The other option would be Splitter coming off the bench again, AK is not coming off the bench.

    Someone like Ellis isn't either.

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    Well, he is done in Minny. The max they can now offer him is the room exception that will give him a $5.4M/ 2 years.
    But how much could Spurs offer to AK after re-signing Splitter? Or Spurs could sign AK first and then sign Splitter officially?

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    Well, he is done in Minny. The max they can now offer him is the room exception that will give him a $5.4M/ 2 years.
    *Provided they found a way to sign Martin outright.

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    But how much could Spurs offer to AK after re-signing Splitter? Or Spurs could sign AK first and then sign Splitter officially?
    Splitter will be signed after and regardless on what exactly will be his contract, he will cost $7.5M (his cap hold) against the cap at the time to sign Kirilenko.

    *Provided they found a way to sign Martin outright.
    Minny shouldn't have an issue to simply sign Martin. With a $58.5M cap, they will have $5M to $8.5M in cap space which is way enough. They can even keep Gelabale and sing Martin if they want it.

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    Minny shouldn't have an issue to simply sign Martin. With a $58.5M cap, they will have $5M to $8.5M in cap space which is way enough. They can even keep Gelabale and sing Martin if they want it.
    is that including the Pek cap hold and the Budinger signing?

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    To sum up Spurs cap situation, they have $12.8M to split between Kirilenko and Ginobili. That provided Bonner is amnestied and Neal isn't kept. If Spurs get Kirilenko with an empty S&T, they will have $13.4M to split between them. To get a little more cap space, Spurs could try to salary dump Mills and/or De Colo.

    If Spurs sign Kirilenko with cap space, they will still have after that he room exception ($5.4M/2 years) to offer at other free agents.

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    I was thinking the same, but it isn't busted. That's a quite harsh word to use.
    I think it is true though, it is BUSTED IMO because they bring Bonner back and will probably get Neal again and signed Splitter to that 9 mill a year contract. To me that is a bust all in all. I wanted those two gone and someone to replace them and maybe a decent FA and we got none of that. Our draft pick is a project too and will not play this year.

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    is that including the Pek cap hold and the Budinger signing?
    it is including Pekovic's and Bundinger's cap hold. Budinger will be signed after Martin.

    a quick breakdown of Minny slary situation:
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post6727531

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    Splitters average salary shouldn't be too much of a shock to anybody. Centers are always overpriced, and most were pointing to Asik's 3 year 25 million contract, which is 8.3 mil per year. We gave our guy 9 per year. Not much a jump, and remember, Asik signed that after only being a bench guy for the Bulls. Deandre Jordan and Javale McGee are both getting over 10 mil and they are bums. Gortat who was a bench guy on Orlando landed a contract netting him more than 7 mil per year. Splitter is a guy that was our starter for a vast majority of the season and is projected to continue that role going forward. It's fine. We still have room to make some magic happen with AK/Manu

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    To sum up Spurs cap situation, they have $12.8M to split between Kirilenko and Ginobili. That provided Bonner is amnestied and Neal isn't kept. If Spurs get Kirilenko with an empty S&T, they will have $13.4M to split between them. To get a little more cap space, Spurs could try to salary dump Mills and/or De Colo.

    If Spurs sign Kirilenko with cap space, they will still have after that he room exception ($5.4M/2 years) to offer at other free agents.
    This is assuming Splitters first year is worth 9M or it doesn't really matter?

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    Minny shouldn't have an issue to simply sign Martin. With a $58.5M cap, they will have $5M to $8.5M in cap space which is way enough. They can even keep Gelabale and sing Martin if they want it.
    I thought the numbers were closer than that. I got the Wolves being at $53.3 Million before Martin was added. Even taking Gelabale way would keep them over. I imagine there's some rounding error in there, though.

    If Spurs get Kirilenko with an empty S&T, they will have $13.4M to split between them.
    Just to be clear, this S&T cannot happen if the Wolves sign Martin outright, correct? They'd have to use Kirilenko's Non-Bird exception to sign-and-trade him, and they'd have to give that up to have cap space. Do I understand that correctly?

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    I can't believe people are discussing amnestying Bonner. Pop wouldnt even consider it.

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    I can't believe people are discussing amnestying Bonner. Pop wouldnt even consider it.
    Exactly, too much wishful thinking with overly complicated scenarios.

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    I think it is true though, it is BUSTED IMO because they bring Bonner back and will probably get Neal again and signed Splitter to that 9 mill a year contract. To me that is a bust all in all. I wanted those two gone and someone to replace them and maybe a decent FA and we got none of that. Our draft pick is a project too and will not play this year.

    Neal isn't coming back, Splitter's deal is most likely back loaded, and Bonner is still quite likely to be moved.

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    Neal isn't coming back, Splitter's deal is most likely back loaded, and Bonner is still quite likely to be moved.
    Pop will ask for a moment of silence at the first home game and everyone will wear #15 patch for the Spurs.

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    Spurfan needs to prepare themselves for when Kirilenko inevitably signs elsewhere because Pop refuses to give up on Matty.

    I've resigned to signing Delfino when this falls through tbh.

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    Spurfan needs to prepare themselves for when Kirilenko inevitably signs elsewhere because Pop refuses to give up on Matty.

    I've resigned to signing Delfino when this falls through tbh.
    But he spreads the floor at 14 minutes a game.

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