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    Dude has been playing professional basketball for over a decade...he's no longer young with upside. Maybe he learns to handle the blitz, but it's more likely he folds like a lawn chair. Maybe he pulls a Fab and develops a reliable J out of nowhere, but it's also possible his improvement ends at free throws.

    Point is, I don't think you can count on improvement when someone has been playing as long as Tiago has...possible, but more likely he is what he's going to be at this point.
    a 28 year old player isn't young anymore? splitter doesnt have upside? im pretty sure the front office doesn't agree with you...

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    Splitter got maybe half a million more than I thought he deserved based on the market itself.


    Not a bad deal for the Spurs. Definitely no hometown discount, but definitely fair market value.


    Many other tier bigmen have gotten just the same or more. Tiago prolly coulda ed over the Spurs and held out for another 2-3 mil per if he really wanted to, tbh.

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    If Baynes were a better player than Splitter, he'd have made the NBA a long time ago and would be making a of a lot more than league minimum. Baynes' ceiling is sticking on an NBA roster as a garbage time player.
    If he was any good, he would be playing in the Spanish league, the most compe ive and perhaps best paying league in Europe. At least he'd be playing in Turkey. Not in a f*ing eastern europe hole team for some six figure salary.

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    I've given it a couple hours to sink in, and the more I think about it the more Tiago's signing is not that bad. We are merely judging Splitter based on his numbers this season, and it's clear that given around a solid 32-35 minutes a night he can produce pretty well. While I was at first infatuated with having a big man such as Marcin Gortat that didn't make soft hook shots, no big man on the free agency market outside of Al Jefferson has post moves compared to Splitter (yes, even Dwight). With that said, I hope Splitter takes this contract as a sign that the Spurs are going to juice every dollar out of him and make him man the up and stop being so soft.

    Also, us being able to amnesty Bonner to get AK-47 would be fantastic; I'd trade a player that only shoots 3's and spreads the floor with mediocre defense with one that is able to shoot from any range and plays good defense. Take a second and imagine what the Finals would have been like if we had AK-47 and the small ball lineup that Spurs could use:
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    He's not playing 32 to 35 minutes. He'll average about 25 this season.

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    Exactly but people associate his soft play with European players.
    that and he played in spain/euroleague. i mean, i don't consider steve nash a south african player

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    Don't hate it, don't love it. Spurs paid market price for a big who shrinks to the occasion against the primary contenders for the next several years (OKC/Miami), and who gets no respect from the refs. But, he's a solid two-way player. IF he develops a reliable mid-range shot or learns how to handle small ball pressure D, he might actually outperform the contract.
    I might be imagining things but I recall seeing Tiago hoist up a mid range free throw line jumper as the shot clock was going down and he actually banked it in

    I agree, I think the next big frontier for Tiago to explore is that mid range jumper. His free throw shooting has improved drastically, and at least initially opposing teams will just give him that mid range J for free. For all intents and purposes it'll be like a free throw. Of course, when (if) teams start adjusting to it, that should open up things for other guys as well.

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    I might be imagining things but I recall seeing Tiago hoist up a mid range free throw line jumper as the shot clock was going down and he actually banked it in

    I agree, I think the next big frontier for Tiago to explore is that mid range jumper. His free throw shooting has improved drastically, and at least initially opposing teams will just give him that mid range J for free. For all intents and purposes it'll be like a free throw. Of course, when (if) teams start adjusting to it, that should open up things for other guys as well.
    I'd rather him try to learn some more post moves and to use his other hand and get stronger.. He needs to stay close and get rebounds and put backs, that's where most of his points come from anyway. The offense will not go into him, he's not that kind of player. If he does get post moves he can at least pass out of it and reset rather than getting stripped if he's picking and popping or blocked.

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    splitter isnt even european, he's from ing south america
    Splitter is a typical brazillian as Julián Castro is a WASP. Guy is jew-german descendant, was born in one of most germanic towns in Brazil (most of the families speaks german at home, not portuguese) and gone to Spain as a teenager. Nene and Barbosa play brazilian basketball, because they played their entire career in the Brazilian league before arriving in the NBA. He played more years in Spain and U.S. than he played in the brazilian league. Splitz played just two seasons in Brazil before going to Spain at sixteen. Ten years after that, he arrived in U.S.

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    About market value for a center. He's arguably entering his prime and still has room to improve his NBA game. Hopefully the last year of his deal is backloaded.

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    Wow this guy couldn't tie his own shoes in the finals. Over paid were there any other teams who would of over paid him?

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    Wow this guy couldn't tie his own shoes in the finals. Over paid were there any other teams who would of over paid him?
    Nah that's the worst part, Portland just acted like they would to with us.

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    Nah that's the worst part, Portland just acted like they would to with us.
    They still get us back for MMDAY miracle! From the way they play us the last few years like they are possessed to Batum etc.! That team feels they just owe us one everytime they play us or screw us lol. Whats funny is I would have waited to see what was thrown at him since he is a RFA and then matched if it was worth it! Instead on got damn day two they throw that contract at him.

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    If the Spurs only offered a lower figure and wouldn't budge, Splitter's camp would probably sit and wait for the Howard sweepstakes to end, and see if the losers between Atlanta, Houston, Dallas would throw money at him.

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    If the Spurs only offered a lower figure and wouldn't budge, Splitter's camp would probably sit and wait for the Howard sweepstakes to end, and see if the losers between Atlanta, Houston, Dallas would throw money at him.
    I would bet MONEY Dallas would to screw us, you can always count on CUBES to do that. I would have bet on it.

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    I would bet MONEY Dallas would to screw us, you can always count on CUBES to do that. I would have bet on it.
    Exactly. So people saying we didn't need to pay Splitter this much because Portland wasn't serious about making an offer don't realize that Portland is moot. The real players are the losers of the Howard sweepstakes

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    Exactly. So people saying we didn't need to pay Splitter this much because Portland wasn't serious about making an offer don't realize that Portland is moot. The real players are the losers of the Howard sweepstakes
    Had that scenario played out and he went to one of these teams you'd know exactly what to do in order to make him ineffective.. Put a guard on him, catch him high in the pick n roll .

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    Had that scenario played out and he went to one of these teams you'd know exactly what to do in order to make him ineffective.. Put a guard on him, catch him high in the pick n roll .
    I'm not worried about how I'd deal with Splitter on the Mavs. I'm worried about how I'd replace my starting center

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    I'm not worried about how I'd deal with Splitter on the Mavs. I'm worried about how I'd replace my starting center
    Spurs could have panicked and overpaid some other big. Lets hope he doesn't get that big man syndrome, "I got paid, now I can relax"

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    Somehow your sports analysis is worse than Mico Halili's.
    Nah man we still overpaid. Blazers did well making us burn our cap space. Could've had Millsap or Gortat. Was never sold on Splitter. If his PER or ORTg was better than Gortat's that's cause the system made him better.

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    In a year where half the league is tanking, Tiago Splitter is getting 9M really?

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    Now to put up mediocre stats that look impressive compared to ty bigs in the league.

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    Splitter needs to get back to this form more than anything. The thing I noticed, especially in the first video, was his jump shot. He had range out to the three-point line. It was an odd-looking form, for sure, but he certainly can get back to that.

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    Price was too high, in my opinion.

    Realistically, I was expecting $6M - $7M a year. That's about what he is worth.

    He still has some upside, keep in mind. But he is a high floor, low ceiling type of guy to me.

    4 years, $26M sounded about right.

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