ESPN Stein: Spurs have AK47 in their sights

[celldweller]

Spurfan needs to prepare themselves for when Kirilenko inevitably signs elsewhere because Pop refuses to give up on Matty.

I've resigned to signing Delfino when this falls through tbh.

...and and he's a great locker room guy.

[BatManu20]

Neal isn't coming back, Splitter's deal is most likely back loaded, and Bonner is still quite likely to be moved.

Woj reports that the Spurs are now focusing on re-signing both Manu and Gary Neal now that Splitter's locked up so...

[spurraider21]

Not sure to trust Bruno or Chinook tbh

[ElNono]

Spurfan needs to prepare themselves for when Kirilenko inevitably signs elsewhere because Pop refuses to give up on Matty.

I've resigned to signing Delfino when this falls through tbh.

Last I heard, Lakers were looking at Delfino...

[Bruno]

I thought the numbers were closer than that. I got the Wolves being at $53.3 Million before Martin was added. Even taking Gelabale way would keep them over. I imagine there's some rounding error in there, though.

Have you removed Stiensma contract that is non guaranteed and rumored to be waived?
That's my computation but I may also be wrong:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post6727531

Just to be clear, this S&T cannot happen if the Wolves sign Martin outright, correct? They'd have to use Kirilenko's Non-Bird exception to sign-and-trade him, and they'd have to give that up to have cap space. Do I understand that correctly?

Yes, it can't. Minny would have to do the Kirilenko S&T first and they renounce to the trade exception created by it.

Another possibility would be a three team trade between Spurs, Thunder and Wolves. Spurs would get Kirilenko, Wolves would get Martin and Thunder would get a TE and maybe some little assets like cash or second round picks. It would allow Minny to have the MLE/LLE instead of the room exception to end their offseason.

[spurs10]

Pop is a fan of AK47, and vice versa. There might be some substance behind this rumor. It would be incredibly badass if it went down. We'd still need to develop a backup for TP, but we'd be looking pretty damn strong.

[Chinook]

Not sure to trust Bruno or Chinook tbh

When in doubt, always trust Bruno. He's been doing this a lot longer than I have.

[spursince#99]

Woj reports that the Spurs are now focusing on re-signing both Manu and Gary Neal now that Splitter's locked up so...

Doesn't mean it's going to happen, and I've searched but yet to find that tweet.

[spurraider21]

Doesn't mean it's going to happen, and I've searched but yet to find that tweet.

it was at the end of his yahoo article, not a tweet

[spursince#99]

it was at the end of his yahoo article, not a tweet

Yeah I just saw it, but I'd think he'd announce it separately like everything else.

[Chinook]

Have you removed Stiensma contract that is non guaranteed and rumored to be waived?
That's my computation but I may also be wrong:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post6727531

The biggest difference between our calculations is that you're assuming Gelabale is waived, and I didn't. That makes up about $900k of difference. Then your numbers actually added up to $50.8 Million instead of $50.0 Million (assumed typo), but your individual numbers looked solid. I really think it was just rounding error. It's so close that Gelabale's deal makes the difference. And I doubt Minnesota would keep him if it comes to that. But they might, as he's a very competent three for a very cheap deal. But thanks for the other opinion.

Yes, it can't. Minny would have to do the Kirilenko S&T first and they renounce to the trade exception created by it.

Another possibility would be a three team trade between Spurs, Thunder and Wolves. Spurs would get Kirilenko, Wolves would get Martin and Thunder would get a TE and maybe some little assets like cash or second round picks. It would allow Minny to have the MLE/LLE instead of the room exception to end their offseason

We've been beating that scenario to death over the last few hours. It would seem beneficial to all parties, but it might be too complicated to get everything to work. I think they'll try to work something out over the next week or so, provided the Spurs actually are interesting in Kirilenko in the first place.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I'm gonna rage. It's possibly Duncan's last year and we are being very passive as an organization. I don't like doing nothing. It's like they expect everything to just shake out for us like it did this year. Oi!

[TheGoldStandard]

I'm gonna rage. It's possibly Duncan's last year and we are being very passive as an organization. I don't like doing nothing. It's like they expect everything to just shake out for us like it did this year. Oi!

They're expecting Duncan, Parker and Manu and now Kawhi to carry the load while everyone else just kinda meanders through the season.

[spurraider21]

They're expecting Duncan, Parker and Manu and now Kawhi to carry the load while everyone else just kinda meanders through the season.

stupid franchise, making their best players do most of the work...

[tim_duncan_fan]

To sum up Spurs cap situation, they have $12.8M to split between Kirilenko and Ginobili. That provided Bonner is amnestied and Neal isn't kept. If Spurs get Kirilenko with an empty S&T, they will have $13.4M to split between them. To get a little more cap space, Spurs could try to salary dump Mills and/or De Colo.

If Spurs sign Kirilenko with cap space, they will still have after that he room exception ($5.4M/2 years) to offer at other free agents.

So, if it worked out that Iguodala or Evans didn't get on with the Kings, could we use $11 to get Tyreke or Andre and use $1.8 to sign someone's back up?

[Bruno]

So, if it worked out that Iguodala or Evans didn't get on with the Kings, could we use $11 to get Tyreke or Andre and use $1.8 to sign someone's back up?

You can but, in that case, Spurs likely won't be able to re-sign Manu.

[stephen jackson]

so we can throw 6.8 to ak47 & 6 to manu
and still have a MLE to throw at another free agent? )))

[Kineto]

so we can throw 6.8 to ak47 & 6 to manu
and still have a MLE to throw at another free agent? )))

No, you can't use cap space AND the MLE. we can use MLE only if we sign our current player (SPlitter, Gino, Neal...)

[SpursSerb]

If the Spurs want to sign Kirilenko,they can sign him.Not signing Kirilenko cause you don't want to give up Bonner or Neal is beyond dumb and stupid.Kirilenko should be their priority,even before Manu.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

AK wingspan is 7'4" and Kawhi's is 7'3". Duncan and Splitter's wingspans are 7'3". If the Spurs picked up AK they would be one of the best defensive teams in the league and that have the option of going small ball with Duncan/Splitter C, AK PF, and Kawhi SF or Big with Splitter C, Duncan PF, and Kawhi/AK at small SF.

This would allow them to matchup with any team's frontcourt in the league easily.

[xmas1997]

Seems to me if AK47 were coming here we would have heard something solid by now!

[cd98]

Seems to me if AK47 were coming here we would have heard something solid by now!

We had to get Ginoboli deal first to determine how much we could pay someone else. Now that Ginoboli's deal is done, I'm sure the Spurs are exploring the best way to add Kirilenko, along with looking at other free agents if they can't get him.

[spurs10]

We had to get Ginoboli deal first to determine how much we could pay someone else. Now that Ginoboli's deal is done, I'm sure the Spurs are exploring the best way to add Kirilenko, along with looking at other free agents if they can't get him.

I sure hope you are right!

[spurraider21]

It seems as though the front office might have to choose between bonner and Kirilenko

[ducks]

with manu signed spurs could announce something soon