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    he covered stand your ground in the self defense chapter of the textbook. george aced that chapters test.
    irrelevant, tbh

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    so the prosecution is pointing out cowardman knew exactly what to say to corroberate his self defense claim.

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    okay, serious question. cowardman took 18 hours of mma training, why couldn't he out wrestle a 165 pound kid??? someone with 18 hours of mma/grappling training will have an advantage over just a regular guy off the street, especially a kid.

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    This case has nothing to do with stand your ground.

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    SYG was covered in the self defense/castle doctorine chapter in the course the professor taught....SYG is rooted in self defense.

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    okay, serious question. cowardman took 18 hours of mma training, why couldn't he out wrestle a 165 pound kid??? someone with 18 hours of mma/grappling training will have an advantage over just a regular guy off the street, especially a kid.
    If you were sucker punched in the face, fell to the ground and jumped on, you might not be in condition to fight back effectively either.

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    If you were sucker punched in the face, fell to the ground and jumped on, you might not be in condition to fight back effectively either.

    now that you put it that way, i can see how zimmerman couldn't wrestle him off.

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    I don't know who's watching now, but it's become a real joke. Trying to take testimony over inferior Skype connection. Kangaroo court at its worse.

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    That was the funniest crap I have seen in a long time. All those trolls calling in to interfere with the Skype testimony. I take my hat off to the trolls for that one.

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    Just watching snippets but looks like the state is having a field day with Zimmerman's friend. He's giving conflicting reports from the story and he is sweating like a mutha***er.

    Why is he sweating so much? hmmm...

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    Appears that state witness Gordon Pleasants who was part of that Skype fiasco this morning was involved in a pe ion to get Zimmerman arrested last year. Just another attempt to stack the deck against GZ.


    Gordon Pleasants commented on the pe ion about 1 year ago


    We are angry! We want justice! We wanted Chief Lee and the Sanford Police Department to arrest and convict George Zimmerman for the murder of Trayvon Martin! However, Chief Lee, who himself felt the incident was morally reprehensible, failed to do what we wanted. Therefore, the Sanford City Commission made a majority vote of “no confidence” in Chief Lee which resulted in him temporarily stepping aside.



    http://www.change.org/users/11552699

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    Crime Lab Analyst on the stand. There was no Trayvon Martin DNA on the gun nor holster. So how did Zimmerman feel Martin reaching for the gun if he never touched it?

    Zimmerman lie #150,403 shot down.

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    Crime Lab Analyst on the stand. There was no Trayvon Martin DNA on the gun nor holster. So how did Zimmerman feel Martin reaching for the gun if he never touched it?

    Zimmerman lie #150,403 shot down.
    GZ said he thought TM was reaching for the gun. He never claimed he touched it. I believe when the defense crosses, they'll ask this DNA guy if it's possible that TM could have indeed touched the gun or holster but not left any DNA.

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    This case has nothing to do with stand your ground.
    of course it does. TM saw himself being followed by car then on foot, and "perceived a threat" which is what SYG is all about. The threat from an armed vigilante stalker was not only perceived, but real.

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    of course it does. TM saw himself being followed by car then on foot, and "perceived a threat" which is what SYG is all about. The threat from an armed vigilante stalker was not only perceived, but real.
    SYG doesn't allow you to take the offensive and throw the first punch.

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    SYG doesn't allow you to take the offensive and throw the first punch.
    in FL, can you find the law's text? you sposed to wait for GZ to punch (or shoot) first before you perceive the threat?

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    in FL, can you find the law's text? you sposed to wait for GZ to punch (or shoot) first before you perceive the threat?
    , find it yourself. It's already been posted in this thread about 4 times.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Florida+stand+your+ground

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    GZ said he thought TM was reaching for the gun. He never claimed he touched it. I believe when the defense crosses, they'll ask this DNA guy if it's possible that TM could have indeed touched the gun or holster but not left any DNA.
    He said there was a struggle over the gun.

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    He said there was a struggle over the gun.


    another factually incorrect loaded paraphrase by creepn

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    , find it yourself. It's already been posted in this thread about 4 times.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Florida+stand+your+ground

    (3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity (TM) and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

    depends what "attacked" means.

    Being stalked in a car and then on foot could be perceived as an impending attack.

    As neighborhood watch captain, GZ was unlawfully (by NW laws) armed while stalking a suspect.



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    NW laws

    Boutons...you are hilarious.

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    Forgot to point out a previous lie. Excuse me, there are just so many lies to keep track of!

    Zimmerman lie #160,340: Zimmerman told Hannity that he doesn't know anything about SYG laws, but yet he has an "A" in a class that discussed SYG laws.

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...trayvon-martin


    medical examiner says the only blood on cowardman's jacket was his own. there was none of zimmermans blood on the front of trays hoodie. wouldn't that blood be on tray's hoodie as well if tray was mounting him and pummeling him to death? can i get an expert opinion on this.

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    so did tray start bleeding after he said "aight aight, you got it?"

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...trayvon-martin


    medical examiner says the only blood on cowardman's jacket was his own. there was none of zimmermans blood on the front of trays hoodie. wouldn't that blood be on tray's hoodie as well if tray was mounting him and pummeling him to death? can i get an expert opinion on this.
    Ya I thought it was wierd that there was no blood on Martin's cuffs around his wrists with it continually being in close proximity to Zimmerman's "beaten" face.

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