Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_NBA3m
Most likely course for Spurs now is to stay over the cap via Manu/Tiago cap holds, use full mid-level, then sign new Manu/Tiago deals.
Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_NBA2m
Spurs might in theory be able to get a tad under cap, that course no longer makes sense, and full MLE seems to have been their plan.
Zach Lowe @ZachLowe_NBA2m
My guess is Spurs have 2-3 candidates in mind for the full MLE and are confident they can get one. Always far ahead of the game.
Well that makes sense...full mle is 4yrs/22mil and u dont have to amnesty anyone...they get also the vet minimum to add someone else...under that scneario they can also re-sign neal with some cap space...
Well, I would be way more careful than Zach Lowe about Spurs taking the MLE road. They are still kinda in a gray area where it's not clear that what they will do.
And if Spurs opt for the MLE, it will makes the Jean-Charles pick way less understandable.
Well that's better news. Hopefully there are some good surprises left.
So what is the other alternative?
Cap space + room exception.
Thanks for the post. I was showing Spurs at possibly $2.3 million below cap after signing Splitter/Manu with what we now know about their deals. That would be without Neal coming back and no amnesty of Bonner.
It may be the Spurs sign Neal and go over the cap, then I guess we could have about $5 million either way. I was not aware we could get the full MLE this year but hopefully true.
As far as who we could get for $5 million as a FA, sounds like Kirlenko would be doubtful but not impossible depending on how the market plays out. As we know, there are plenty of overpriced vets out there still to be signed including numerous bigs.
The odd thing about it all to me is that I don't see us coming anywhere near our $70 million payroll from last year, I don't see how we can get that up much above $65 million. Smells like a waste of the best of Duncan's limited remaining years for 2013-14.
I said it before and I'll say it again: Spurs are looking to make a trade. May just be a S&T, but they've got the stashed picks and expiring contract(s) to make some sort of deal. Just hope it isn't for Ellis or someone equally as useless to this team.
How much more would the cap space be over the MLE?
MLE is $5.15M. Spurs could clear $6M in cap space by amnestying Bonner and renouncing to Neal.
Given what they've already announced, I think using the MLE is the best play. It allows us to bring back Neal with no concern for cap and try to trade Bonner either this summer or at the trade deadline as an expiring.
According to the salary cap faq, if we move Bonner we can take back up to 150% of his salary + $100K, which puts it up near $7M. (More if we throw in DeColo or CoJo or whoever.) Given all the teams that want to play in the free agency sweepstakes next year, there's a fair chance we can get a useful asset for that. So it's probably smarter than amnestying him anyway.
Is this the most bestest summer haul ever? No. But if we bring back everyone who played in the Finals and still have a chance to bring in two more decent assets with the MLE and with Bonner's expiring, I don't think cliff jumping is warranted unless you just like that sort of thing.
Oh that's not happening. MLE it is.
Don't you think Buford actually liked JC Bruno? I know you have some reservations about him, but If Buford had him as a top20 pick, he simply went to BPA route, no matter if the boy would have to stay in Europe or not.
So technically they could get TWO decent free agents.
This is what I'm starting to believe more and more.
It's one or the other. Can't do both.
Nope. U cant use space and MLE same year
If they use the cap space to sign a free agent, they only get the Room Exception, not the MLE.
Edit: oops, late to the party.
Now we should court on Jarrett Jack or Krilenko.
i smell neal walking or let walk. and bonner amnestied or traded.
The MLE and LLE can both be used simultaneously right?
So they can't use the full MLE (4 yr 22mil) and the room exception (2 yr 5mil)?
I don't.
If saving some cap space by stashing Jean-Charles wasn't a key factor in drafting him, I don't really get that pick.
AK47 hasn't gotten many offers yet. I think the Spurs are still front runners.
Oden may come in very cheap too.
But they can still sign people to veteran minimum's once everything else is over right?
forget about the cap, maybe they just liked him man! buford said they had him top 20 rated and he was the best available at that particular point...
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