5-6 mil would be my idea but ok. For loyalty has Manu earned this contract? ya! But as a business standpoint no.
In a perfect world we could sign & trade for AK47, convince Jarrett Jack to take the MLE to play for a contender, and sign Greg Oden for the vets min. In a good world we could still try to convince Jarrett Jack to take the MLE to play with a contender, sign an average backup for Kawhi with the LLE, and sign Greg Oden for the vets min. In an ideal world, we'll just bring Neal back and stand pat. We're pretty much going to go with the ideal world.
No, it isn't possible and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Manu's contract has a no trade clause.
Tbh, didn't you admit to trolling when you said Manu should get 3 years and $21 million with a third year team option?
Manu just signed a contract for your trolling amount
Dont forget Kevin MArtin getting 7+ mil on a 4 yr contract. No doubt Manu would have gotten 7+ on the open market.
If that's what the Spurs are counting on Manu for in the next two years then they're ed.
Phoenix is trying to unload Gortat, New Orleans needs to get rid of Lopez, TRob was traded in a hurrry, Asik may get traded. All of them make less than Splitter and there's a good offer to demand ratio right now with all the teams tanking, I strongly disagree that this was Tiago's market value.
Actually, the irony is that this contract is probably worth more on the business side for the Spurs than on the sport side... hope it pays off on both...
Who will Greg Oden choose from the Heat and Spurs when they both can offer him the same amount of $$$? The obvious choice is the cHeat.
Rockets, Lakers and Mavericks
You're absolutely right about Tiago. Spurs signed him for market value.
As to Manu, the danger was never really that some team would outbid the Spurs for Manu. The danger was that the Spurs would lowball him and piss him off to the extent that he would sign with a rival for well below market value. In the end, both sides acted predictably.
LOL. Well said.
Tbh, didn't you admit to trolling when you said Manu should get 3 years and $21 million with a third year team option?
Manu just signed a contract for your trolling amountyes I was...
and IIRC, I was telling Bruno a LONG ass way ago that Manu could be had for $3m-$5m, and he told me that was too low... I think the playoffs completely changed the perception of things...
Most people on RealGM don't think Ginobili is getting 7M on the open market
Manu gets 6mil/year on the open market tbh. His value is lower outside of SA since he's probably the most popular player on the Spurs.
Would I have liked to see him take 6mil/year? Of course.
But I'm not going to hold an extra million per year against him considering he's sacrificed the most bball wise out of the Big 3 and will probably end up earning a lot less than them over the course of their careers.
Nice one
This. Overpaid for two guys that didn't step up against the perennial favorite...one of which they essentially bid against themselves to overpay for. AT least with Splitter there was the possibility that he'd get a large offer, but even then the Spurs had options.
Gross.
Tbh, that's the exact same question you asked when you said TD wasn't worth more than $8 million. Like I said then, it's not a valid question because the cap space that has already been used wouldn't have been used if someone of his talent level was actually available.
If Ginobili were truly available, he'd be more coveted than the Kevin Martins, JJ Re s, Kyle Korvers and others who have gotten paid. And if he were truly available, contenders would be coming out of the woodwork for sign-and-trade deals. You don't think contenders like the Thunder, Clippers, Nets, Knicks, etc. wouldn't go after Ginobili if all they needed to guarantee was $14M?
He wouldn't have gotten it, but if Spurs plan on using the MLE there is not much reason to lowball Manu.
Absolutely correct.
It's still way too much, though.
I'm guessing the Spurs didn't make much of a case to pay him less, considering that Manu had agreed to become a bench player when he wasn't. Now he's getting rewarded for it.
I get your point but still, with or without those 4 millions, Manu is already mega rich and he won't spend his money ala Iverson. Well, I just thought that being such a winner, he would do all it takes to help his Spurs get one last ring (esp. after these 13' PO)
No one will knw what manu would have gotten as a fa doesn't mean anyone is right, bottom line we all knew spurs were keeping him at a fair deal .and Yes even this watered down version of gino is worth 7 mil to our spurs
I'm fine with this, its a legacy contract. Manu has brought so much to San Antonio the past ten years. He could have easily left via free agency and commanded much more money earlier in his career. I also have no problem with the Spurs bringing back the same team that had Miami on the brink. They could easily get back to and win the Finals next year.
Most NBA fans only watched Manu in the Finals.
'Tis the same reason why so many thought the Harden trade was good for OKC when it went down
If you base your perception of how much a player is worth off of seven games, it's unlikely you will be in touch with reality, tbh.
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