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    He speaks Portugese not SpanishLOL


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    lol at thinking 7M is a good deal. The guy is not even playing 25 minutes a game is 36 and injury prone. Which other team would give him this much??
    Manu would not be as valuable to another team as he is to the Spurs. He may not be what he was in his better days but he is still a big part of what the Spurs do. His worth is now more on his experience in the system and the leadership he provides.

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    "He's Manu Ginobili"


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    as i see it Spurs organization betray their fans, thay gave up on competing next season for making Manu a little richer... they should tell Manu to take 2-4 per year or don't come back, we all know that at his current form he is replaceable, player like Alan Anderson free agent of the raptors i don't know if less good than Manu now days... !! Manu! Spurs!!

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    Splitter speaks Portuguese son

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    Not really.

    I'm using "could" because we don't really know for the moment but there is a strong possibility that Ginobili not willing to take $5M per year has cost Kirilenko for Spurs.

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    Bruno is telling the truth, tbh.

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    That's where I'm at. I think the deal stinks, and I'm just left hoping that he finds the same "second wind" in his career that Timmy experienced last year. Because one thing is clear...there is no one on this roster as it's currently cons uted to take Manu's role away from him. Spurs second unit is going to live and die by Manu.

    God help us. I'll be praying (in vein?) for a re-energized, healthy Manu.
    You're caught up in a moment... there's still time to find some other piece out there...

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    see Tim Duncan. quality. Manu is not quality, consistently.
    Yep and Manu is not a top 10 player ever, nothing new here. But still, if healthy (and that's a big if), Manu will be fine as a veteran leader coming off the bench. One should not judge a player based on 7 games...

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    Yeah. People are always talking about how we need a new back up PG but we already have one in Cory. Just give him some more time to develop and I think he could turn into a very solid part of the rotation. His defense is very promising, and I suspect he's going to work on his offensive game this offseason.
    If Joseph spends the summer in Chips garage, maybe he can be productive throughout the year. Instead of just spot minutes here and there. Him and DeColo both need to need to be able to hit the 3 and the midrange consistently.

    The FO has to find a way to keep Manu out of the backup pg role in the playoffs. Unless they play him there all year, it throws off the rotations that late in the season and wears Manu out prematurely over the course of the game. I think that's really why he was gassed in the Finals which led to lazy passes / turnovers.

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    as i see it Spurs organization betray their fans, thay gave up on competing next season for making Manu a little richer... they should tell Manu to take 2-4 per year or don't come back, we all know that at his current form he is replaceable, player like Alan Anderson free agent of the raptors i don't know if less good than Manu now days... !! Manu! Spurs!!

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    Not really.

    I'm using "could" because we don't really know for the moment but there is a strong possibility that Ginobili not willing to take $5M per year has cost Kirilenko for Spurs.
    Bruno is telling the truth, tbh.
    I understand the "could", but the reality is we don't know what Kirilenko wants at all... we don't even know if he's interested in joining the Spurs...

    You throw that out there, and people start thinking there was a legitimate shot at him, and we don't know that.

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    You're caught up in a moment... there's still time to find some other piece out there...
    Maybe. The deal, in and of itself, is garbage. If the Spurs make other moves to solidify their roster, and in particular anchor their bench I won't be as critical. But Manu at that cost for the same role and the implications it has to cap flexibility...sucks.

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    If Joseph spends the summer in Chips garage, maybe he can be productive throughout the year. Instead of just spot minutes here and there. Him and DeColo both need to need to be able to hit the 3 and the midrange consistently.

    The FO has to find a way to keep Manu out of the backup pg role in the playoffs. Unless they play him there all year, it throws off the rotations that late in the season and wears Manu out prematurely over the course of the game. I think that's really why he was gassed in the Finals which led to lazy passes / turnovers.
    I tend to agree with you here. I think it would be more appropriate at the very least to limit Manu to SG and back-up SF duties. Between Tony, Cory, and Nando, let them work out a solid PG rotation.

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    This contract was all about pushing the Spurs over the Cap so they have the Full MLE and LLE like they did last year. Now the Spurs can offer Kirilenko a 4 year 22.5 mil dollar deal and they are still in a position to Sign and trade for Ellis or another playmaker.

    This is exactly what the Clippers did. Once they got Paul signed, it pushed them over the cap. They made a trade for Red for 7mil a year and just shipped out Bledsoe and picks. The Clips still have the full MLE at this point to sign a player. IMO, this is exactly the route the Spurs are trying to take at this point.
    Good point, I don give off into the numbers like that but I like how you broke it down.

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    Terrible deal

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    Yep and Manu is not a top 10 player ever, nothing new here. But still, if healthy (and that's a big if), Manu will be fine as a veteran leader coming off the bench. One should not judge a player based on 7 games...
    1. he's never been healthy let alone at 36+
    2. he sucked all year, not just in the Finals

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    i'm still wondering which of the FAs out there that would be in the 8 mil range was going to come in here and give us an automatic run to the le

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    While I'm glad Manu is back, I'm not exactly thrilled with the numbers. Obviously we have no idea whether AK would even sign here, but if he doesn't over the $2 million that went to Manu this would be a disaster. I also don't think any team would pay him $7 million, especially a team that might be rebuilding like Atlanta. He's guaranteed to miss games next year and his game is declining.

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    I understand the "could", but the reality is we don't know what Kirilenko wants at all... we don't even know if he's interested in joining the Spurs...

    You throw that out there, and people start thinking there was a legitimate shot at him, and we don't know that.
    We will see what kind of contract Kirilenko would get but with Ginobili at $5M, Spurs would have been able to offer Kirilenko a contract starting at $8M-$8.5M.

    And without using a "could". To me, it's clear that Ginobili getting these extra $2M truly hurt Spurs chances at getting Kirilenko.

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    i'm still wondering which of the FAs out there that would be in the 8 mil range was going to come in here and give us an automatic run to the le
    That's the thing with Kirilenko, he finds a way to contribute even if the plays aren't called for him. All those other players people have talked about are bonafide ball stoppers and players who haven't gotten over themselves. I hope Kirilenko will come in for MLE but even if he doesn't, the Spurs team is still a contender.

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    That's where I'm at. I think the deal stinks, and I'm just left hoping that he finds the same "second wind" in his career that Timmy experienced last year. Because one thing is clear...there is no one on this roster as it's currently cons uted to take Manu's role away from him. Spurs second unit is going to live and die by Manu.

    God help us. I'll be praying (in vein?) for a re-energized, healthy Manu.
    There wouldn't be any need for you prayers if Manu would have taken less $$$ and not be so greedy.

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    He turned down 10 mil. I'm doubting he takes MLE. I have hope though.


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    We will see what kind of contract Kirilenko would get but with Ginobili at $5M, Spurs would have been able to offer Kirilenko a contract starting at $8M-$8.5M.

    And without using a "could". To me, it's clear that Ginobili getting these extra $2M truly hurt Spurs chances at getting Kirilenko.
    We don't even know if the Spurs had any chances to begin with. For all we know, AK47 already said no. We don't know. We don't know anything at this point.

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    Probably what hes worth, so technically its a fair deal. Still pretty disappointed though, was really hoping he would take one for the team...especially since both Timmy and Tony currently make a lot less than what they should.

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