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Be free to hate the guy but with 11.8 pts, 4.6 asts and 3.4 rbds in 23 minutes, I would not say that Manu has sucked all year long
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I'm thrilled Manu is back!
Tony probably makes less than he should but Duncan is fair value. He played above his contract last year but I think the 10 a year is on point for a big
wow. just wow.
this team totally overachieved this season, was a just few seconds away from the crown. the fans of 28 teams thankfully take this season. a team is a team. a winning team is the sum of it's parts. anyone who can claim that even a subpar Manu isn't a crucial part of this winning team put a hand up. never change a winning team.
Manu. you think it's a coincidence that his pay cut will turn out as exactly the same percentage that Tim took?
Manu's market value........what a joke if used as an argument. (and bet on it that at least one team will love to offer at least 7M). Manu's value for this team - and remember this is still a winning team - goes far beyond whatever some people think his market value might be.
fair deal. welcome back Manu.
edit. btw. Manu's PER last season was 19.0. any player in this league who delivers that number will get 7M.
Last edited by mountainballer; 07-03-2013 at 04:23 PM.
It was all CIA Manu to take the heat off of the Splitter deal.
What we know is that the Spurs chances to sign Kirilenko improve with these extra +$2M.
It might not be enough but it can't hurt either
Manu was great in limited minutes throughout the year. i said it in another thread but I think he just the bed in the finals (caveat - for a few games) when his role changed and he became the backup point. Too much responsibility for those old legs.
Timmy was first team all-nba. He should be on a max contract or atleast bordering on the max. Same with Tony.
He had career lows across the board, his advanced stats were terrible, and he missed twenty plus games. He was terrible. The Spurs just buried Duncan with this contract...pathetic. Guarantee that Ginobili won't even suit up for half the games next season.
Not gonna lie, the more I sit on this the worse I feel. It was at about market value but let's face it, for the Spurs to get anyone of value to come here they'd have to pay a fair amount more than normal. That extra $2mil will be huge (unless they already tried and failed to recruit their biggest targets).
I'm not going to dispute that having more cap room helps the team go look for FAs, that's undeniably true.
How does it affect going after Kirilenko specifically? Who knows? Did Kirilenko even said what was he looking for, outside 'more years'?
Higher than I had hoped, but I'm glad he's back.
In the specific case of Kirilenko, no one knows... Anyway, those $2M are in Manu's pocket now so let's hope he'll prove all the doubters wrong in the next 2 years!
Ginobili should be making Ray Allen money. Anything more than 3 million is overpaying.
Assuming Kirilenko is a such a great deal.
Olimpiakos 2012 would think otherwise.
I was under the impression that once a team signs all of their own free agents, if they are still under the cap, the MLE applies to the remaining difference, meaning that if the Spurs were at 56mil after the Manu signing, they still could only sign Kirilenko to the Full MLE since 2mil of the 5mil MLE exception counted against the remaining cap space the Spurs had.
Now the Spurs went over the cap after resigning Manu, they don't have worry about losing any of the MLE against their own cap space.
Manu's role is going to change. The Big 3 as we know it is gone. During his 20 minutes of action, Manu perimeter of action will be much more limited (passing and 3 pts shooting for the most part)
Would he be so selfish as to cost them a good chance at Kirilenko or are they as interested in him as we've been led to believe? Because I find the former hard to believe.
If it is the former, I don't ever want to hear about how great a compe or or how selfless he is again. Not when Duncan (again) and Parker go and cut this them a major break and he maxes out or at least comes perilously close.
Agree with the people saying he should make what Ray Allen makes.
I'm not even sure Kirilenko would accept to come off the bench in the first place tbh.
I'm going to reserve judgment until the free agents start drying up. They kind of already are but there still a few notable ones that haven't committed to a team.
But if this is it and the Spurs start looking in the scrap pile, this was an absolutely terrible move.
dude he did that THIS year and sucked at it. his shooting % plummeted and he hasn't adjusted his shot. enough fade away threes....and sure as enough with the Tony Romo turnovers
Ray Allen outplayed Manu in the Finals. Ginobili must have no shame if he honestly thinks he's worth 7 million. SA should have let him walk and signed AK instead.
Well, in that case, they could have turned his turnover factory'd ass lose.
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