Happy that Manu is back with us. 2 years/14 million about 4 million more than I was expecting but the Spurs have that family culture so not a big surprise.
I try to make my final judgement about a player based upon whether or not I would want our team to have to go up against him. I would love to go up against a complete stupid-fouling turnover machine like Ginobili. He was great in his prime, but his star shined bright and has now burnt out.
Sorry... tbh...
I'm sorry, but I'm starting to become more of a Timmy fan than a Spurs fan. Timmy scarified money for the better of the team, the Spurs aren't paying him back though. Timmy deserves at least 5 rings.
He shouldn't have missed that shot then. I'm sure he's the first person to admit that. Almost everyone on the team could have been just a little better, and that includes him. Admitting that and embracing it is what being a team is all about.
Anywho, if the Spurs are really in a position to get Kirilenko, they can probably find a way to adjust Ginobili's contract to make it happen. Even if that means adding a partially guaranteed third season.
Nobody else in the NBA would be stupid enough to pay Manu 7 million a year. The Manu fanboi in this forum are like crack addicts with their absurd Manu love.
Great job, Spurs. That's almost a million bucks per turnover in Game 6. And that's at least 6M more than I thought it would be. I was hoping for 4M a year, a 2/8M deal. The guy plays 20 minutes a game, and misses at least a third of the season. If we had won the le this year, I could see this making sense - as a reward. But this? Tim makes what, 10M a year? And Manu makes 7M? On what planet does that make sense?
Love Manu but no way is he worth 7 mill with his injury history. But this signing is not about wining it is about selling tickets bottom line $$$
I love Manu and kinda like Tiago but those contracts they agreed upon are, I have to say, a bit much considering they didn't play well during the Finals
if they both took 1 mill less annually it would have painted a much better picture. 2 years 12 million for Manu is what most people here were content with. seemed fair, not too much, not necessarily cheap. of course many of us had hoped that he would accept even less than that, but that was a pipe dream. he's a professional basketball player also trying to make a living.
as for Tiago, 4 years 32 million seems a lot friendlier than 36. plus that 2 million per year of cap space would have helped us make a stronger bid for AK, which about 90% of us are for. still, there's a shot we land him, but its no longer as likely as it seemed just 24 or 48 hours ago.
still, im just glad we got them both back, otherwise we'd be scrambling for a starting center and for a way to replace manu.
Son... you are speaking the ing truth. Spurs FO has completely dropped the ball on this one. (no pun intended)
This. Manu is 36 years old and a much bigger liability than an asset at this point. I shudder to think how ing terrible he is going to be at age 38.
Next season Manu is going to freak when all the fans turn on him.
Last edited by BackHome; 07-03-2013 at 06:35 PM.
I'm thinking no team offered $7M and that Ginobili threatened to retire if the Spurs didn't offer him at least that much.
Called it. How much do we have left? About $2M? That's about the amount the qualifying offer we gave to Gary Neal right? Different year, same team.
MLE though. I bet we spend it on some unknown player like Vitor Faverani or we sign a point guard. If you're a Spurs fan you're going to have to get used to these 'disappointments', but you know there's always a solid reason behind them. I'm calling MLE on Korver, Kirilenko, Bynum (looooong, long shot). Ellis is going to get scooped up by the Bucks. Oden for the vet min because Blair is walking away. If not Oden, DeShaun Thomas takes his spot.
Manu speaks Spanish, and that's worth 7 mil a year to the Spurs.
There's no basketball reason to pay a scrub that much money. And that's what Manu is at this point, a scrub.
Spurs had to lock up their own contracts before Dwight made a decision. There were around five to six teams vying for him, three of them with cap space. How would we feel if, say, the Mavs offered bigger money to our players? I'm willing to wager the Mavs would make a play at Splitter had they failed in the Howard sweepstakes.
also, no stranger to disappointment after that Game 6 loss
What a bad off season. It had to happen sometime. Our front office clearly doesnt know when to let go. All we can do as Spurs fans is wait til after 2014-2015 when all the money comes off the books.
Manu took a paycut of half his salary from last year (assuming the deal is 7 mil the first year, 7 the second). Just throwing it out there, tbh.
I don't think people here know what tbh means..
Manu gift for being a good guy was the 14 mill it was not based on his production. We paid him that for him working with us all the time so we should have paid him what he is worth on this new contract which probablly be around 5 mill....no way in 7 mill
That won't happen.Next season Manu is going to freak when all the fans turn on him.
This speaks volumes about the at ude going forward. The team has elected to play the nastalgia card and will be somewhat compe ive, but signing Manu to so much money is a sign of the end. It is a reward as the Spurs start a two year farewell tour.
I think most of us had hoped that they would find a way to transition to the next compe ve team, but it is obvious that within three years we will be a lottery team. The biggest question mark for this year will be, can the Spurs continue to win 50 games? I think they will win about 45 and be a 7th seed. The following year we will be fighting for to break even.
We have no way to improve, while the big three weather away.
game over man, game over
this plus how much Tiago got is about the worst case scenario for the off season
Give me Manu for $7mm per year over Kevin Martin or Kyle Korver anyday. Plus the deal is only two years.
More importantly, they HAD to pay him $7mm per year in order to get to the brink of the salary cap so they could use the full MLE. No way of getting AK47 or whichever MLE guy they are targeting without doing so. I assume the terms of the contract will be somewhat in flux until pen is put to paper and it could end up being slightly less than $7mm depending on what happens with Neal.
They won 58 games last year despite Kawhi (24), Tim (13), Tony (16) and Manu (22) all missing significant time - at least 15% of the season and in Kawhi's case almost 30%. Under normal cir stances, you would see that closer to 10% (about 8 games per guy for rest / recovering from wear and tear). Other than the Clippers, the rest of the west is stagnant to slightly worse than last year (NO and Minnesota could improve too, and Portland was 33-36 before losing 13 straight; they'll improve as well). I don't see any less than 50 wins unless there is a serious injury or two.
Last edited by cjw; 07-03-2013 at 06:46 PM.
Great post. And 5- 10 years down the line when the seats in the arena start to get emptier and emptier...you will start to hear rumblings about the Spurs relocating like they almost did before Robinson arrived. Thanks to not rebuilding but hanging onto the past.
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