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Pathetic.
I don't think people were this upset when the Spurs gave RJ 4yr/40 million tbh.
Pathetic.
true. to be fair, i don't think RJ had just come off his worst season and played like epic in the Finals either.
DPG, you're a reasonable guy, that's why I'm surprised you're saying "logic and using what info is available", because as far as the AK case is concerned, there was zero, zilch info available. There still is zero info available.
Actually, if you recall the first few news about Manu is that the FO wasn't even talking to him, and they were in no rush to get things done. Which IMO means, something didn't work out the way the FO wanted, and they just signed up their guys.
Also speculation, but also "logic and using what info is available"...
Yup. And Captain JACKass made $10 million last year and did NOTHING.
Of course there is info available. You look at what is old contracts were, what he opted out of, what similar quality players normally go for, what teams have money to offer...Plus a credible sport writer mentioned the Spurs very specifically (you may not see him as that, which is fine, but I do). Plenty of info out there to form a pretty educated decision. Unless you are saying guys like Bruno, myself and Timvp just wildly speculate without a lot of concern for reality?
Had had come off his worst season (at the time; they've just gotten worse since then), but he didn't mess up in the Finals. He was one of the reasons the Spurs got swept in the WCSF that year.
true. to be fair, i don't think RJ had just come off his worst season and played like epic in the Finals either.
" WE NEED COREY MAGGETTE!!!! "
That says it all really about the rational of many of the haters.
That's what the inane stuff that the current ones keep repeating will also look like eventually (for those not seeing it for what stupidity it is already).
The Spurs like him, they've targeted him in the past.. lol
I hope people don't confuse my enthusiasm on the subject as being upset. I made my point on Manu and my feelings toward him known with regards to the finals performance and how I viewed him. Despite that, I always said I wanted him back.
I am not upset at this as much as I am a little disappointed in the possible ramifications. But overall, as I have been saying, things could still definitely work out in which case his contract is moot. My main point always was, I will only be upset if this contract in reality leads to the Spurs missing out on adding to the team. If it doesn't and they can still get their main targets, then I really don't care what Manu makes. I even said I think that in a bubble, its a market value contract.
So was I.
Valid argument. Happy 4th, Deeps.
Same team with a TBD lower tier FA for next year.
OKC took a step back. LA is older, and will lose Howard. Clippers will be better, Warriors will be more experienced, and Grizzlies will seek revenge.
Spurs will have a tough time getting back to the Finals.
But until he signs somewhere, we have no idea what any of that means. He could still sign in San Antonio for the MLE. He could sign there through a sign-and-trade. He could sign with a team like Atlanta for big bucks. He could sign with a contender for the MLE/mMLE/RE. Any of those scenarios playing out would point to Ginobili's deal not being a factor. The only way Ginobili looks at fault is if he for a deal that starts between $7-9 Million with a team other than the Spurs or Wolves. Even then, there remains the distinct possibility that the Spurs just didn't want him.
Outside a report that the Spurs were allegedly seriously interested in AK, what else did you hear?
Did you hear anything from Kirilenko or Kirilenko's camp? Anything from the Spurs' camp? What is AK looking for? What "logic" and "information" do you use to determine that?
Everyone speculates. I do too. It's just speculation.
May a million bald eagles adorn your rooftop and fireworks light the way on this glorious occasion. God bless you and your family.
I know you're not upset
I wouldn't want to bring DaPointGuard out to da paint...
Grizz will be worse, Clippers got better but the Spurs will have an easier time beating them if they meet, and the Warriors got ridiculously hot for a series and a half. West is still there for the taking if the Spurs stay healthy and get internal improvements from Leonard, Green, Splitter, CoJo, and Nando.
Well again, I feel this is semantics (perhaps this word does not mean what I think it means). Its the same way I came up with Manu's deal. It's based on past and present factors. To me there is a difference in speculation and educated guesses, I guess.
Happy 4th
Not sure he took his role with the team very serious at 14 mil. this year, maybe at 7 next year he will?
May the Eagles that adorn Mugen's roof top, swoop down in a blaze of glory to guide you down the triumphant streets of freedom, liberty and justice. May hot dogs, ice cream and ice cold American beer fill your belly full of happiness while you sing the songs of this wonderful country hand-in-hand with neighbors of all race, creed and social stature.Happy 4th
phenomenal.. gonna add it to the independence day thread...
Now there's a possibility. When someone says "that's just semantics", I take that to mean that they believe that there is no substantial difference among the things being discussed. That it's just a matter of different words saying the same things.
So when I say "it's more than just semantics" in response to you, I am asserting a belief that the things being discussed are substantially different. That it's more than different words to describe the same thing.
I have no idea whether this actually helps at all, but I'm trying. It can be difficult to know if meanings are being fully understood using this form of communication.
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