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co-sign.
Terrible scenario. I bet you're one of those Manu lovers that insists he still a good player. You still want Manu to be our backup PG? Stop being delusional. Manu is going to su*k balls next year. He is finished. He needs to retire. Stop with this Millsap BS everyone. The guy is a midget.
co-sign.
You are grossly underpaying. You can hope to get one of these big men. Not 2 or 3.
Lets see who is delusional.
The Spurs reached the NBA finals and were a bad bounce away from the le and buffoons like you think that Manu Ginobili has to retire because he played badly in three games. The trouble is even that "bad" Ginobili is better than 3/4ths or 5/6ths of the rest of the SGs/ off guards in the league. There is no way Manu will retire.
And try not being an ass*ole.
I hope you are right. While I'm not on the kill Manu bandwagon, or the retire Manu bandwagon, I really don't know if he can be a difference maker anymore. At his best he could score at will, if the Spurs needed a bucket badly he would go left to the rim and lay it in. Now you see that maybe once a game, twice on a good night. You could see it against the Heat. I just kept saying, someone do something, get a basket. No one could. It troubles me more that our 31 year old "star PG," "who is the best player on the team," couldn't score if his life depended on it. He was non existent, and he is supposed to be the guy. For me, Tim is easily still the best player on the Spurs roster, and it shows in a big way.
Basically we need to upgrade, at least if we want a real chance to win another le with Timmy. All 3 of these guys will be coming back a year older, and a year slower. We need to upgrade at starting SG, and or at PF/C. Tim needs some in help. This decade long of no help is now beyond bull . Splitter is a scrub, I don't really care what any of you say. He is a fake big man. He needs to put on weight, which he won't/isn't going to do. He has no post moves, and can be guarded by Dwayne Wade, or Norris Cole? It's a in joke. Derek Fisher anyone? We need a real in big man to go with Tim. We have money, we need to go get one. Figure out the rest later. Neal can walk, Nando can take his spot. He is bigger and a much better play maker. Something we lacked against the Heat in a big way. Parker wasn't doing much, he needs a backup. I would like to see Nando get Neal's minutes. Neal leaves, it frees up salary. Granted he doesn't get a lot of money. A lot of people here like Joseph. He can still get playing time with one less guard on the roster. In my opinion this solves a couple problems.
1. Neal's salary is shed, he isn't much of a PG in terms of playmaking and ball handling. He can't create his own shot consistently. He is a streaky jump shooter, and we know he plays no D.
2. We get rid of a log jam of mediocre guards who aren't contributing. We utilize our best young playmaking Guard, and the one with the most size.
3. If we get a real big man, it affords us the chance to experiment more with our young guards without piling up losses. I don't need to mention any of the benefits of having a real big man next to Tim. Will it happen? Doubt it, the Spurs have gotten way to stubborn. There is a golden oppurtunity smacking them in the face....
Am expecting this exactly.
I disagree about upgrading at starting 2 guard, green is a pretty decent 2 guard, especially if he improves his ball-handling in the off season which I think is likely.
We need a power-forward something fierce since Duncan is more of a center at this point... Kahwi is a good starting sf at this point.
Starting Parker, Green, Kahwi, any starting quality pf, and Duncan should be a great starting 5.
Second unit has questions, I like Diaw but and he's good for this team but kinda undersized though he is smart and uses his speed and bulk well. I'm not against bringing splitter back depending on his cost, but I think we've seen that he doesn't really what it takes to be a quality starter in this league..
My perfect scenario has us looking like this:
Looking at the Think Tank salary thread among many others across the board this should work financially assuming Tiago isn't offered a ridiculous amount by some other team.
Trade Bonner to Houston for Thomas Robinson and allow them to clear cap space for their run at a max contract player.
Resign Manu and Tiago to fair contracts.
Let Blair and Neal sign with other teams.
Sign Tyreke Evans and Omri Casspi with what's left of the cap space. If Sacramento doesn't let go of Evans easily then offer more, forget about Casspi and just resign T-Mac for the vet min as the third string SF.
Center: Duncan/Baynes/Gobert(or other drafted project big)
Power Forward: Splitter/Diaw/Robinson/Leonard
Shooting Forward: Leonard/Ginobili/Casspi/Diaw/Evans
Shooting Guard: Green/Evans/Ginobili/De Colo
Point Guard: Parker/Joseph/Mills/De Colo
I feel like Chip can do wonders with Robinson and Evans' shots. And if things go well, then it provides an excellent start for the post-Duncan era with Robinson/Leonard/Evans/Parker as the teams core with Tiago/Green/Joseph as excellent role players.
It's a relatively low risk/high reward type scenario that basically swaps Bonner/Neal/T-Mac for Robinson/Evans/Casspi in our already championship contending roster. And with internal improvements from Leonard, Green, Joseph, and Baynes I like our chances in next years finals.
On a side note, it would be awesome to see three guys(Robinson, Evans, Casspi) who were drafted into unfortunate cir stances(Sacramento) thrive in our team and system, thus proving just how important the culture of a team is linked with a player's success.
Last edited by spurs108; 06-25-2013 at 03:18 PM.
No way. Josh Smith is a top-20 player in this league and will get around $16,000,000.00 per year. He'd get more if it was the old CBA.
And I don't care what happens after it's announced Duncan-Smoove-Kawhi will be the starting front court. Such a monster on both ends that a championship is guaranteed absent injury.
This is the most likely scenario tbh
think i like this one the best
I see roster spots left open from Blair's departure and maybe with Neal as well. Expecting if no strong free agents come in and pick in the draft doesn't stick then a year of 10 day contracts and wait and see who is bought out and left available at the deadline after allstar break.
let me just remind people that a trade should work for both teams. i understand if you feel like making the spurs an allstar team but is there a reason why the other team would allow that trade to happen (e.g. clearing salary, rebuilding, get young prospects/picks, etc.)?
Josh Smith is not a top 20 player in this league.
Ok, how about Randy Foye.
6'4" backup PG/SG combo. 29 yrs old, averaged 27 mins/game last year and shot .397 overall, .410 from 3 pt and .810 from FT line. His defense is decent, he can pass some but most important, he can run the offense for the backup unit. Essentially, he's a less pass worthy George Hill.
And he was paid $2.5 mil last year...
Or perhaps - Tyler Hansbrough.
6'9" power forward who is now a UFA (due to Indiana rescinding their original offer). Not a great scorer, is a decent rebounder but is certainly a banger and Pop type of player.
And, he is probably worth 1/2 the MLE.
Yet another . . .
Rodrique Beaubois - backup PG. A lil injury prone but certainly a capable scorer and runner of the offense. Not a great 3 pt shooter either and is just OK on defense.
Made a lil over $2.2 mil last year. And, he's from France....
Did someone really say they want David Lee?he is like literally the worst big defender in the entire league
Psycho T would be a solid addition off the bench but he wants to start
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