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Well Neal still has a much better playoff resume with an incredible Finals game and a season saving shot...
I'm still waiting for the Grizzlies to win.Be prepared to be disappointed.
Well Neal still has a much better playoff resume with an incredible Finals game and a season saving shot...
Neal was horrendous last year. Blame it on injuries but he was flat out embarrassingly bad. Belinelli is a better player and its not even debatable.
Neither are game changers or going to be the ultimate difference between a le but Belinelli is smarter, a better defender, and as good a shooter.
That's not true at all. Neal and MB are comparable as shooters, but MB has a much more rounded game. He's the vastly superior ball-handler, can create better than Neal, and is a better defender with more length than Neal.
Playing in a great defensive system can mask your flaws, but it doesn't eliminate them..if that's the case, Neal wouldn't have been such a horrid defender on this year's elite Spurs defense(which was superior to their offense)..
34% from the field and 33% from 3 in a 5 game series where 3 losses were blowouts . . . ?
And Beli is a better ball-handler and passer, but not a better creator of his own shot, not even close, tbh..
I disliked Neal as much as anybody on ST and I like Beli replacing him, but still, let's not be delusional about this, tbh..
Belinelli vs. Heat
14.5 points per 48 minutes
4.5 rebounds per 48 minutes
3.7 assists per 48 minutes
4.6 fouls per 48 minutes
2.6 turnovers per 48 minutes
34% shooting from the field
33% shooting on three-pointers
Neal vs. Heat
18.5 points per 48 minutes
4.7 rebounds per 48 minutes
1.8 assists per 48 minutes
2.7 fouls per 48 minutes
2.2 turnovers per 48 minutes
42% shooting from the field
47% shooting on three-pointers
Neal was much better against the Heat. Tbh, Belinelli sucked against the Heat.
Stupid comparison. Belinelli didn't get to play off guys like Parker, Duncan, etc.
Wow, don't look now but the Spurs actually signed someone we know the name of.
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We can't really blame Belli for playing on terrible teams. I'm sure this is why he chose SA ahead of Cleveland. And for those saying "I watched him in Toronto and his defense was bad" ... Most players' defense will take a step back on bad teams. It's demoralizing trying to stay within a team concept when you are surrounded by heads. Not saying he's a good defender, just saying its tough to compare a guy's defensive effort on a bad team vs on a good team.
Also in general role players tend to play better in San Antonio. Wouldn't surprise me if Belli has one of his best years in the NBA playing for Pop.
Addition by subraction. Spurs didn't get better. Personally, I'd rather have neal.
I actually like Joseph, but he's too minimal a prospect and his role is too important of one to chance it.
Again, he shouldn't be compared to players like Leonard, Green and Splitter, since it was immediately obvious in all three cases that they were rotation players. Stop gap or young, they need players that can help them win now.
Neal is the better ballhandler, tbh.
So Neal converted a couple more of his shots per game whereas Belli got a couple more assists per game, so offensively it's a wash and in every other category they're ostensibly even except for fouls. That's hardly a "much better" performance by Neal, esp. considering that Belli was asked to do a lot more against the Heat than Neal was, and Neal couldn't defend you, me or my neighbor Tom.
Oh no he isn't. Neal has absolutely no left hand and can't handle even the slightest pressure, where as Belli is virtually ambidextrous. What the are you watching, dude?
I've always liked Belo since he came into the league...he's just never had a good opportunity since he's been on bad/young teams. But when he got his shot with Chicago he made a name for himself..especially in the playoffs..
Glad Spurs took a chance on him and sacrificed less $$ good signing for us!
Overall he's a better player than Neal. I've been a fan of Neal and loved his confidence but he played his way out of the Spurs price range. Can't hate him for that!
Very true. Marcin Gortat went from being one of Phoenix's beset defenders to being the worst last year because he wasn't happy with his team. Fact. http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/20...e-of-its-worst
lol Neal had one game where he and Green went off, subtract that and Belinelli's best game in the series and give me the stats
He looks like Giancarlo Giannini in Swept Away.
THAT dude.
It's not even definitive that Neal will be gone. Besides, I trust Woj more than anybody.
FWIW, I don't really mean to come off as negative against Belinelli. Neal is apparently getting offers higher than the Spurs are willing to pay him so they were forced to move on. They needed to find a reasonably priced shooting guard to provide depth and be able to step in when Ginobili misses his games. Under those cir stances, getting Belinelli is fine. He has his flaws (thus why he only got $2M last offseason and less than $3M this offeseason) but he's in his prime and has some upside. He has a chance to be a bust but he also has a chance to do better than expected. All in all, as relatively cheap SG depth, Belinelli is a good get.
But it's pretty dumb to think of this as a big improvement over Neal ... especially since it appears as if the Spurs attempted to sign Neal first and only moved on to Belinelli when they got priced out of the Neal race. Let's hope it works out but everything we're hearing so far is that he was a consolation prize.
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