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    If Pendergraph is signed with a part of the MLE, it would be weird that Spurs spend their MLE on players that doesn't fit their biggest need (a backup SF). Belinelli will be the 3rd string SG behind Green/Ginobili and Spurs had other options to play SG like De Colo. Pendergraph will be potentially the 4th string PF behind Duncan, Diaw and Bonner. Spending $5.15M on 3rd/4th stringers while you don't have a true backup SF is a strange move.
    If they don't sign a true backup SF, then Belinelli isn't a 3rd stringer. He's part of a 4-man wing rotation with Leonard, Green, and Manu. Basically, the role Neal filled from the moment they cut Jackson. We may not like it, but that may be the plan.

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    Why is this bad of we used the MLE on him?
    Because then we have nothing left but minimum contracts to offer players. It pretty much signals an end to any meaningful moves.

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    Perhaps they're thinking using Bonner/DeColo on a trade?
    If we traded De Colo, wouldn't we have to get another PG? We'd only have Parker and CoJo. Don't think Manu will be playing the point a whole lot anymore, tbh.

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    OK, but that states that one of the requirements for BYC treatment is that the re-signing team be over the cap. Depending on the ordering of deal signing, is it still not possible that the Spurs can be under the cap when a hypothetical S&T for Neal takes place?

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    Possible. Spurs could have an offer out to AK but don't know if he's going to accept. If he does then they can make the proper adjustments and sign Belinelli with the RE and AK and Pendergraph with cap room and if AK declines then they can just use the MLE on the above two guys.
    IMO, as far as the AK situation is concerned, the Spurs are looking for 2 year deals, and AK opted out because he wants a long term deal... just speculation, but I suspect the AK boat might've sailed a long time ago, we just never knew.

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    If Pendergraph is signed with a part of the MLE, it would be weird that Spurs spend their MLE on players that doesn't fit their biggest need (a backup SF). Belinelli will be the 3rd string SG behind Green/Ginobili and Spurs had other options to play SG like De Colo. Pendergraph will be potentially the 4th string PF behind Duncan, Diaw and Bonner. Spending $5.15M on 3rd/4th stringers while you don't have a true backup SF is a strange move.
    Yeah it donest make sense, unless this team wants to squeeze dry kawhi leonard in the regular season playing both SF and Small ball PF, they really really need an SF. I was really hoping for Garcia or wright since i've lost belief in the spurs trying to acquire AK47, sadly that's already out of the question now as well.

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    Brutal offseason

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    Why is this bad of we used the MLE on him?
    Because that means the Spurs used the MLE on Belinelli as well and there is no more money to add any other players.

    Losing Blair/Neal to replace them with Beli/Pendergraph doesn't really do anything and you have used over 5M to do nothing essentially.

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    I wonder if RC Buford comes and reads these threads just so he can laugh at all of our scheming and attempts to figure out his master plan.

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    If they don't sign a true backup SF, then Belinelli isn't a 3rd stringer. He's part of a 4-man wing rotation with Leonard, Green, and Manu. Basically, the role Neal filled from the moment they cut Jackson. We may not like it, but that may be the plan.
    Pop may be planning to play the out of Kawhi these upcoming seasons. If thats the case they may not feel a backup SF to play 6-8 minutes a game is a necessity.

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    OK, but that states that one of the requirements for BYC treatment is that the re-signing team be over the cap. Depending on the ordering of deal signing, is it still not possible that the Spurs can be under the cap when a hypothetical S&T for Neal takes place?
    Nope. Once a team goes under the cap, they lose their exceptions for the rest of the season. So if they want to use the MLE, they have to stay over the cap.

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    They upgrade two bench spots. Spurstalk es.


    What a shock.

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    Because that means the Spurs used the MLE on Belinelli as well and there is no more money to add any other players.

    Losing Blair/Neal to replace them with Beli/Pendergraph doesn't really do anything and you have used over 5M to do nothing essentially.
    We were going to have to sign players anyways, even if wet brought back Blair and neal, money would have had to be spent somewhere

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    If we traded De Colo, wouldn't we have to get another PG? We'd only have Parker and CoJo. Don't think Manu will be playing the point a whole lot anymore, tbh.
    I see frustration in your future, tbh....

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    Just bring back James Anderson.

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    Why is this bad of we used the MLE on him?
    That would mean that any further changes would be through trades or vet minimum signings. All speculation about any significant free agent signing would be over.

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    here are a few SF backups i think we could trade for with de colo and bonner.

    chris singleton
    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6470/chris-singleton
    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...ingleton-1342/

    jan vessley
    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/4165/jan-vesely
    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jan-Vesely-1402/

    washington just drafted otto porter and glen rice. plus they already have a bunch of bigs

    tobias harris
    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6440/tobias-harris
    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tobias-Harris-5740/

    orlando has moe harkless, andrew nicholson, al harrington, and just drafted osby.

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    There is an option that Pendergraph is taking the room exception and then the Spurs are splitting possible cap space with Marco and someone else. So even if he didn't take a min contract I guess it doesn't mean that the Spurs are out of options but it does mean there will be no AK47. You would still amnesty Bonner and trade away one of the points.

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    We were going to have to sign players anyways, even if wet brought back Blair and neal, money would have had to be spent somewhere
    Well, technically, that is one way to look at it. Long story short if you think there is no big deal with spending 5M on back up role players that arguably don't improve your team at all, that's fine. I just disagree.

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    Maybe the Spurs will match Neals contract and get rid of Mills and De Colo

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    Btw when Kawhi gets healthy, he's gonna play 38 to 40 mins a night with plays run through him. Makes a backup SF worthless.

    So they looked at who would play minute, replace Neal with a taller, better player, then improve your big man depth.

    Not that hard to see.

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    There is an option that Pendergraph is taking the room exception and then the Spurs are splitting possible cap space with Marco and someone else. So even if he didn't take a min contract I guess it doesn't mean that the Spurs are out of options but it does mean there will be no AK47. You would still amnesty Bonner and trade away one of the points.
    True.

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    Pop may be planning to play the out of Kawhi these upcoming seasons. If thats the case they may not feel a backup SF to play 6-8 minutes a game is a necessity.
    I know kawhi is young, but this is way too risky...

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    Well, technically, that is one way to look at it. Long story short if you think there is no big deal with spending 5M on back up role players that arguably don't improve your team at all, that's fine. I just disagree.
    What else was the money going to be spent on, did people really believe we were gonna get some big name? Spurs thrive on depth, and once again we'll have it in spades.

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