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http://www.poundingtherock.com/2013/...-Antonio-Spurs
"So why am I excited about the signing? Mostly because we all wanted a combo forward. And while most of us wanted AK47 (myself included) Pendergraph could certainly be a better value. He's a 6'10 26 year old, who has primarily played as a power forward, most recently with the Indiana Pacers. As far as the Earl Clark comparisons go, he actually projects as a better rebounder (15.6% total rebound rate vs 13.1%), better shooter (53% TS vs 51%, 49%EFG vs 48%) , and better defender (99 defensive rating vs 105)."
"While Pop and RC would never guarantee minutes to someone, it's likely they promised him at least the opportunity to compete for the backup SF spot, while also being injury/rest insurance at the PF spot. He's certainly more familiar playing at the 4, as he operated as the third stringer behind West and Hansbrough. But it's likely to me he sees time at both places."
"his versatility certainly makes him a better fit on the team. With a solid 6'10 frame, a 7'1 wingspan, and an impressive vertical (better than Kawhi Leonard's, and also a better 3/4 court sprint), he has all the tools to cover multiple positions. The only thing possibly keeping him from playing small forward full time is his slight lack of lateral quickness, though he scored comparably to Tony Mitc in lane agility. For those who don't know, Mitc was widely regarded as one of the best all around athletes in this draft, and also is a tweener combo forward. Mostly, I expect him to eat some minutes in the early to mid season and attempt to earn Pop's trust to crack the tail end of the playoff rotation."
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If he can play the 3 then this signing looks even better. I'm assuming his deal is for the minimum of $992,680 according to Hoopworld (http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-minimum-salaries) He is entering his 5th season meaning this would be his going rate. If that's the case then the Spurs still have more than enough room to make more moves. If my numbers are accurate. The Spurs will have 1 spot open (with a possibility to amnesty Bonner, opening up another spot).
1 spot open ( Including Bonner, Beli and Pendergraph, no Neal)-$59,558,708 [Over cap b $1,5 million, with full MLE Available]
2 spots open ( Bonner amnestied, Beli and Pendergraph included & no Neal)-$55,613,708 [under cap by roughly $2.9 million, room exception available]
Using Hoopworld salaries
Splitter salary next season is listed as $8,400,000 (The Spurs could backload deal possibly)
Manu's isn't yet up but used a $5.5 Million figure
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That made me feel a little bit better there.
Yeah I hope they're right about that minimum deal.
To him playing the 3, I assume?
Lol exactly.
I didn't read the article because tle is enough to say what's it about..
But pendegrah at the 3 is a terrible idea. He's way to fcking slow for perimeter players.
terrible idea.
Our SFs run a few cuts, shoot the corner 3 and board... I don't know that you need to be quick footed to do that... if Richard Jefferson could do it, this dude should be able to do it too...
On the defensive end could be a concern, but so far I've heard good things about this kid defensively...
The writer at PTR says that he has slow lat quickness but is fairly mobile overall and essentially is as quick as Kawhi and actually more athletic. He also has a 7'1 arm span for someone who isn't even 6'9 in shoes. Playing him 10-12 minutes a game at the 3 isn't going to hurt us. Think of how weak that position is Iggy, Barnes, Melo and Lebron ( both eat time at the 4 and play in the east) he'd being playing against bench players essentially like Matt Barnes etc. It isn't as much of a stretch as you might think.
He's closer to a C than a SF. There is no way in he will get a single minute at the 3.
I think its less about lateral quickness and more about the angles you play (Diaw on Lebron). He's also long which helps cover the space he'd give to opposing wing, to keep them from driving on him. Playing him along side Diaw actually make his lack of perimeter shooting a non issue. Diaw would set up on the corner 3 mostly while Baynes stays near the rim and Pendergraph and Diaw setting screens.
I don't like it. Training someone for a position we are weak at is far from ideal. If this is the case we are, and we are not shopping for a SF backup, then we are a Kawhi injury away from being back to where we were 3 seasons ago - without a SF. Backup SF should not be scoffed at cd021. In the playoffs, if you want a WCC or the LOB you're going to have to defend an elite SF that can essentially play as many minutes as they please. If the Spurs want to be able to make Kawhi a stopper then he needs to have the freedom to guard another position without leaving a mismatch in his wake (i.e. they'll need a backup sf).
Yeah, he's not a 3.
I was talking about the defensive end of it. If we're playing him at the three, he's basically going to be a defensive liability. He's a pretty good defender, but even the fastest of Bigman would have trouble keeping up. He's slow. too slow to go against small ball teams..Imagine having stretches of him guarding guys like durant/geroge/lebron etc..
I see what you mean, although I would expect him to run with the second unit, matched up with the other's team bench...
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post6739950
Didn't think it needed its own thread since it was written by somebody named SpursfanSteve.
he is going to be asked to play the 3 sparingly. so i don't see a problem with it. plus bonner was getting 3 minutes at the end of last year. bonner makes pendergraph look like lebron james.
If you look at even the second unit of contending teams, most 3's are way faster than him. I know the ball wont run to a second unit 3, but that's a concern and a liability,
Heat
OKC
Clippers
Even an old teyshawn prince would be able to work on him with a first step.
It could work in the RS, but in the playoffs that's a huge concern.
Belleneli PG
Ginobili SG
Diaw SF
Pendergraph PF
Baynes C
tbh...
I don't see a ton of great options. AK47 is the best available and that is still a minor chance of landing him. Barnes, Aminu, Morrow & Caspi all got signed in the past 48 hours. Maybe Tyrus Thomas, if he clears waivers. Also I think people are clearly overrating the importance of SF's. Its only 12 mpg in the regular season. For all we know Manu, Green and even Diaw could fill that. Maybe they think enough of T-Mac to bring him back on the cheap. Its not the end of the world if we don't have one to start the year. Height was are "weakness" last year though anyone with common sense would have seen that it was a want not a need. We went 8-0 against two of the biggest front-lines in the league (D12 /Pau & ZBo/ Mark).
In the postseason I agree that it would be nice to have a true SF but we went to the finals without one and it wasn't the reason why we lost game 7 to Miami.
I would rather have Diaw at the 3 the him, he is way more of a 3 than Pendy.
And he has a blown-out knee. I'd think is lateral quickness is even worse now than it was in the draft four years ago.
He keeps getting taller. 6'9. Now 6'10. Maybe he'll be 6'11 by the start of the season.
He's actually 6-10. That's his in-shoes combine measurements. Some people keep using his out-of-shoes measurement of 6-8.75, which holds no bearing in the NBA.
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