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    Well, if Bonner contract is still mostly non-guaranteed, the following scenario would work in theory:

    Spurs trade Bonner and De Colo for Kirilenko
    Minny trade Kirilenko for Kevin Martin and Bonner
    OKC trade Martin for a TE
    Utah trade TE for De Colo

    Add pick, rights to foreign player and cash to balance the trade. Spurs could have Kirilenko with a 8.2M salary in that scenario.

    Bruno, you're driving yourself mad here. I worry for your mental health.

    It's over, mon ami.

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    Well, if Bonner contract is still mostly non-guaranteed, the following scenario would work in theory:

    Spurs trade Bonner and De Colo for Kirilenko
    Minny trade Kirilenko for Kevin Martin and Bonner
    OKC trade Martin for a TE
    Utah trade TE for De Colo

    Add pick, rights to foreign player and cash to balance the trade. Spurs could have Kirilenko with a 8.2M salary in that scenario.
    Hi Bruno. In this scenario, would Bonner have to have agreed to extend the date for a possible 1 million dollar buyout?

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    Called it a week ago tbh. Thunder can't go smallball without someone to replace Martin. Not only would AK47 be a good replacement, he'd fit much better than Martin. That may put OKC over the Spurs again.

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    On the other hand,why would the Okc want Kirilenko?Doesn't fill their needs for a legit shooting guard.

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    He would help them in small ball situations. If they go small, they would have Ibaka, Durant and AK47 on the floor together at the same time. I'm thinking they would hide KD on a lesser talented player and give AK47 the tougher defensive assignment.

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    Well, if Bonner contract is still mostly non-guaranteed, the following scenario would work in theory:

    Spurs trade Bonner and De Colo for Kirilenko
    Minny trade Kirilenko for Kevin Martin and Bonner
    OKC trade Martin for a TE
    Utah trade TE for De Colo

    Add pick, rights to foreign player and cash to balance the trade. Spurs could have Kirilenko with a 8.2M salary in that scenario.
    If Martin were willing to sign for the MLE, would Minny be able to trade Kirilenko in a "normal" trade where they take back roughly equal salaries in return?

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    Well, if Bonner contract is still mostly non-guaranteed, the following scenario would work in theory:

    Spurs trade Bonner and De Colo for Kirilenko
    Minny trade Kirilenko for Kevin Martin and Bonner
    OKC trade Martin for a TE
    Utah trade TE for De Colo

    Add pick, rights to foreign player and cash to balance the trade. Spurs could have Kirilenko with a 8.2M salary in that scenario.
    I'm all for it, but I can't see OKC wanting to help us out in landing a guy who seems to be tailor-made for guarding Durant.

    The other complication of course being the Spurs apparent unwillingness to hand out anything longer than a 2yr deal. Maybe 2yrs-$17 would be enough for AK, but I'd think he'd want that 3rd and maybe even 4th years.

    Still, nice thinking on your part. Something to keep the board interesting for a while longer.

    Couldn't it just be a deal between OKC and Minny?
    If AK wanted to go to OKC, it would just be a deal between those two.

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    What makes you think the Spurs are involved in this?
    Nothing and I don't think Spurs are involved. I'm just pointing it's possible

    Couldn't it just be a deal between OKC and Minny?
    I don't see OKC taking Kirlenko salary and they could face the restriction applied to teams above the apron with S&T.

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    Bruno, I know you want AK47 badly, I do too, but isn't this a bit of a stretch?
    Last edited by xmas1997; 07-07-2013 at 05:40 PM.

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    Like article said anything

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    At this point i would happy with just Kirilenko not going to OKC.

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    At this point i would happy with just Kirilenko not going to OKC.
    Me too!

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    Bruno, you're driving yourself mad here. I worry for your mental health.

    It's over, mon ami.
    Yeah, I know.

    Hi Bruno. In this scenario, would Bonner have to have agreed to extend the date for a possible 1 million dollar buyout?
    Yes, he would and that's one of the various reason why it's an unlikely trade.

    I'm all for it, but I can't see OKC wanting to help us out in landing a guy who seems to be tailor-made for guarding Durant.
    If Minny has enough space below the cap to take Bonner $1M and to sign Martin, they wouldn't be able to stop a Kirilenko to Spurs S&T. If Minny hasn't enough cap space to do that, it would be for sure an issue.

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    just sign Artest once hes amnestied and call it an offseason tbh...

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    If Martin were willing to sign for the MLE, would Minny be able to trade Kirilenko in a "normal" trade where they take back roughly equal salaries in return?
    Martin and Minny have still agreed on an above MLE deal ($28M/4 years). This S&T would allow Minny to have the MLE+LLE left instead of the room exception.

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    Well AK is going somewhere, as long as we don't know where you can't stop wondering, because even if it's not us he said he wanted to play on a contender badly... His destination could impact our chances quite a bit no matter what he does...

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    Martin and Minny have still agreed on an above MLE deal ($28M/4 years). This S&T would allow Minny to have the MLE+LLE left instead of the room exception.


    Just when I think I'm getting the hang of this stuff.

    Thanks, Bruno.

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    So a deal involving just Spurs and Wolves is not possible?

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    Martin and Minny have still agreed on an above MLE deal ($28M/4 years). This S&T would allow Minny to have the MLE+LLE left instead of the room exception.
    I don't think the Minny FO is that smart.

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    The Spurs working out Gelabale doesn't make me optimistic... But I at least hope he doesn't end up on the Rockets or OKC...

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    At this point i would happy with just Kirilenko not going to OKC.
    I wouldn't worry about it. They let Martin walk because they refuse to pay the tax and the players they've been rumored interested in, Wright and Delfino, are room exception caliber players and even one of them, in addition to signing their draft picks and a third PG, will make it difficult to avoid the tax.

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    I wouldn't worry about it. They let Martin walk because they refuse to pay the tax and the players they've been rumored interested in, Wright and Delfino, are room exception caliber players and even one of them, in addition to signing their draft picks and a third PG, will make it difficult to avoid the tax.
    What about the Rockets? Asik for AK?

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    I just hope he goes somewhere soon so we can either celebrate or cry. Lol

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    Bruno, I know you want AK47 badly, I do to, but isn't this a bit of a stretch?
    Yep, it's a wild speculation. It isn't impossible because Spurs have been said to be interested in Kirilenko and because this trade quite makes sense for all the teams involved, but it remains highly unlikely.

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    What about the Rockets? Asik for AK?
    Asik wants to start, he would have the same issue in Minny, where he would be playing behind Love and Pekovic(assuming they keep him, which seems to be their plan), tbh..

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