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If Bonner can do it late in his career, why not Danny?
As of now he sucks at it....
But CHINOOK insist he can...
Pigs can fly...
If Bonner can do it late in his career, why not Danny?
He can, kind of, but when you compare him to someone who really can pumpfake and shoot or drive like Neal there's a huge gap in their arsenal/fluidity...
Already threads on this, Mac.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...t=green+subtle
Try searching first next time.
Bingo! Green was shut down once Miami ran him off the 3pt line..he has no confidence putting the ball on the floor.
I recall him shooting one of the worst airballs I've seen this year on a pull up mid range j....
He really needs to work on finishing at the rim. Hate seeing him blow layup after layup more.
He can basically do nothing, not a single thing outside of shooting 3's. Dude sucks at shooting off the dribble but it doesn't mean he can't shoot, that's because he can't dribble...
u mad?
TP needs to teach him how to land floaters and finish near the rim too.
There's a difference between being able to get one's own shot and for one to shoot off the dribble. Shooting off the dribble is literally a different skill than being able to dribble in traffic, which is what most people in here are concatinating with shooting off the dribble.
Green can't dribble well, so he can't get his own shot against even mediocre defense. But he can shoot off the dribble, which allows him to run the pick-and-roll and hit a shot off the dribble if his man goes under the screen.
Green shooting jumpers off the dribble would be very important going into the playoffs next year. He's never going to be as good as Neal, Leoanrd, Nando etc..But you only need a couple of clean dribbles for a mid range J. I think dribbling is one of those skills that if you ignored it when you were younger, it's going to bite you in the ass because it's the toughest to fix for some it almost impossible. But He doesnt need go in traffic and dribble. He just needs a couple of good dribbles for a good pull up jumper which can be fixed in the summer league. He does that, defenders would think twice before harassing him in the three point line.
I know you are.... but what am I?
Dude is a decent spot-up shooter, and it's probably a good thing for the spurs that he can't basically do anything else on the court in the sense that he would be asking for twice the money he currently gets paid if he could shoot off the dribble as efficiently and consistently as he does as a spot-up shooter imho. I'd take a self-propelled artillery over a WWI cannon anyday of the week, but that would be too expensive for the Spurs.
I'm talking about a pump fake and two dribble midrange pull up....that's not in his game..
Not many players on the Spurs can shoot off the dribble....I'd say Neal, Parker, Mills, and Kawhi.
Midrange game is a lost art...and Green doesn't have it. If he did he could easily average 14pts
Hopefully DG will work to expand his game in the offseason and add to his 3pt shooting gig.
Cause if he is one dimensional, professionals will remember and shut it down like the heat did.
He's still probably gonna get twice the money once his contract is up.
they're NOT going to go under his screens. at which point you are going to rely on Green to be a passer/playmaker
I don't consider gathering yourself after you take 1 dribble behind a screen shooting off the dribble...
Manu Ginobili can't shoot off the dribble...which is why he's least effective because he can't to the rim...and settles for 3's..
Green shoots an above-average percentage from mid-range (40 percent from 16-23 feet). It's from close range that he sucks (31 percent from 3-9 feet).
And Green already averages 14 points per 36. He just needs to play more minutes.
Yes, and last year, he was good at hitting Duncan for a pick-and-pop when the defender went over the screen. This year, he needs to get better at hitting the roll man. He struggles with threading the needle in the paint.
I'd rather see him work on the Gervin finger roll.
Again, shooting off the dribble after one or two dribbles already makes Green a lot more than just a spot-up shooter, which if you remember is the entire point over which we disagreed initially. No one thinks he's a good driver, or step-back shooter. He has to develop a better mid-range game for sure. But there's a market difference between a pure spot-up shooter like Mike Miller and a shooter like Green.
Also, Ginobili was actually good from mid-range, especially off a step-back. Don't let his bad shooting last year cloud that fact.
Even with his great Finals...Neal to me is just a way better shooter than Green. You can give me all the stats etc..what makes a great shooter is confidence and that's something Gary never lacked...and Green can be shaky because he can't do anything els sometimes hurt him and the Spurs...
But since he's so damn good a shooting Pop continued to live with it. Gary is clearly the more talented player and will probably get paid more then Green..
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