"The Big 3"

[spurraider21]

If we are talking about the Spurs, if anybody mentions "the big 3" they are talking about Tim Manu Tony. If 40 years from now the spurs have a great team with 3 lead dogs, and you mention the spurs big 3, Im going to think about Tim Tony Manu. end of story. it would be like somebody naming a vikings defensive line the purple people eaters

[eds]

It bothers you a lot more considering you started a thread about it.

this.


it doesn't bother me and the "big 3" of the spurs will always be tim, tony, and manu. spurs are currently in a transition period.

[hooperflash]

wooooooh... I'm a leg man and I must say the lady in your sig =)

Yeah Miley Cyrus is a 7, maybe even an 8 at most, but them legs tho..

[Yuixafun]

oh nooooo, that's Miley Cyrus???? gahhh

[spot2180]

If Manu is out as a Spurs Big 3, then I would think Bosh would be out as a Heat Big 3.

I prefer Big 4 now that Leonard has emerged.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

It amazes me, a guy can do so much for the team, be a HOF lock, win multiple rings with us. Then we have assholes like you who dog him nonstop. Then again, then again, after 2011 half of you in morons where begging for Tim Duncan to retire, wanted the front office to trade him, then when he got his new deal, you ed that Tim had just condemned us to mediocrity. Stop in posting. Better yet, go hop on the Miami Heat's bandwagon you piece of no class losers. Getting old is a natural progression. I'm happy we had Manu when he was one of the top players in the world, and I'm beyond proud he will end his career a Spur when he could have left for more money, and 35 minutes a night. He could have dropped 25 points a night and been a superstar, but he was loyal to the team that drafted him. , how ever did we get stuck with a guy like Manu???

[mudyez]

The Big3 thing is kind of sad anyway.

Was Ray Allen really one of the Big3 in Boston? What about Chris "we win without me scoring" Bosh beeing called part of the Big3?

It's just stupid. I can't hear it anymore. Every Big3 becomes a leader-sidekick-prime roleplayer thing over time (Rodman, Allen,...) and our Big3 ca. 2005 may be the truest Big3 since '86.

For me all that counts are these Big3:
Mouth, Backdoor, Fut...not necessarily in that order

[exstatic]

It bothers you a lot more considering you started a thread about it.

[exstatic]

It amazes me, a guy can do so much for the team, be a HOF lock, win multiple rings with us. Then we have assholes like you who dog him nonstop. Then again, then again, after 2011 half of you in morons where begging for Tim Duncan to retire, wanted the front office to trade him, then when he got his new deal, you ed that Tim had just condemned us to mediocrity. Stop in posting. Better yet, go hop on the Miami Heat's bandwagon you piece of no class losers. Getting old is a natural progression. I'm happy we had Manu when he was one of the top players in the world, and I'm beyond proud he will end his career a Spur when he could have left for more money, and 35 minutes a night. He could have dropped 25 points a night and been a superstar, but he was loyal to the team that drafted him. , how ever did we get stuck with a guy like Manu???

[Vash StampedE]

Manu is still with the team for 2 years but I think almost if not every posters here doesn't expect him to be our 3rd best player anymore. Maybe last year, he was still part of the Big 3 but from this point on, there's clearly another better player with bigger expectations from his team and us fans and obviously, that is Kawhi. Having said that, a lot is still expected out of Manu for the upcoming season with him needing to prove that he's worth the decision and the MONEY the Spurs gave him and also, him trying to make up for his poor showing in the Finals.

[HarlemHeat37]

"Big 3" is just a monicker, tbh..

Miami's trio is called the "big 3", when in reality, it's Lebron with a little Wade sprinkled in, while Bosh is utilized as a role player, for instance..

Ginobili was the 5th or 6th best player this season, but he's obviously still one of the 3 figureheads of the Spurs roster, thus the "big 3" label..

[dallasmaverickslose]

Does it bother you that Manu is talked about as being part of a "Big 3" when he clearly isn't one of our top 3 players? I mean next year he won't be close to a top 3 player on the team. 1&2 can switch around but they'll still be taking the same slots, 3 is locked in, 4&5 can switch like 1&2, then we have a battle for 6 between Splitter and Manu. Calling Tim, Tony, and Manu the "Big 3" is equivalent to calling Celtic Shaq "the most dominating big in the game".

1. Tim
2. Parker
3. Kawhi
4. Green
5. King Belinelli
6. Manu
7. Splitter

Uh oh, when Manu haters like TheGreatYacht get banned the other haters rally around him and spam these forums with Manu hate threads!

[Cherry]

Let's not turn this into a thread about Manu's turnovers.

No.

Let´s turn this into an another re ed Manu thread.

[Knoxxx]

Does it bother you that Manu is talked about as being part of a "Big 3" when he clearly isn't one of our top 3 players? I mean next year he won't be close to a top 3 player on the team. 1&2 can switch around but they'll still be taking the same slots, 3 is locked in, 4&5 can switch like 1&2, then we have a battle for 6 between Splitter and Manu. Calling Tim, Tony, and Manu the "Big 3" is equivalent to calling Celtic Shaq "the most dominating big in the game".

3 years ago we all thought Duncan was done. Keep the faith man.

When Manu started driving relentlessly to the rim, and pulling up midrange when that was cut off, he was vintage (Game 5). Given that he can still elevate and dunk the ball easily, I feel the best course of action as a Spurs fan is hope for more of those games from him and reduce mental errors and hero ball passing in favor of fundamentally sound passes.

[Solid D]

I know that PER isn't the perfect stat but it can be a useful indicator of performance in some areas. Stephen Jackson's performance stands out. According to PER, Manu is still one of the Big 3.

San Antonio Spurs 2012-13 Regular Season PER
PLAYER POS PER
Tim Duncan, PF 24.5
Tony Parker, PG 23.1
Manu Ginobili, SG 19.0
Tiago Splitter, C 18.7
Kawhi Leonard, SF 16.5
DeJuan Blair, C 14.7
Danny Green, SG 14.2
Patty Mills, PG 14.2
Cory Joseph, PG 13.5
Boris Diaw, C 12.0
Matt Bonner, PF 11.9
Gary Neal, PG. 11.6
Nando de Colo, PG. 11.2
Aron Baynes, PF 8.8
Stephen Jackson, SF 8.1

[Solid D]

In case you are wondering, Jeff Pendergraph had a 14.6 PER with the low-scoring Pacers last year. Marco Belinelli had a 10.4 for the equally low scoring Bulls.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

"Big 3" is just a monicker, tbh..

Miami's trio is called the "big 3", when in reality, it's Lebron with a little Wade sprinkled in, while Bosh is utilized as a role player, for instance..

Ginobili was the 5th or 6th best player this season, but he's obviously still one of the 3 figureheads of the Spurs roster, thus the "big 3" label..

5th or 6th best player??? So who all is better than Manu??? Timmy, Leonard, and Parker. Who else...........WHO??? Green? NO. Neal? LMFAO? Splitter? NO. Who are the other better players???

[ThaBigFundamental21]

I think I am starting to understand why TIMVP doesn't post a ton on his own site, doesn't get involved in these arguments. I shouldn't let some of these posters get on my nerves, but the ignorance is astounding.

[HarlemHeat37]

Green is clearly better than Manu at this point, although his role is easier, obviously..

Splitter vs. Manu is a toss-up, tbh..

I'm not even a Manu hater, I've been defending him lately, I just don't see how he can be considered better than Green at this point, tbh..

[Solid D]

Green is clearly better than Manu at this point, although his role is easier, obviously..

Splitter vs. Manu is a toss-up, tbh..

I'm not even a Manu hater, I've been defending him lately, I just don't see how he can be considered better than Green at this point, tbh..

Green is a better 3-point shooter than Manu, I'll give you that much. But that's about it.

[HarlemHeat37]

Green is a much better defender, as well..

Obviously as an overall basketball player, Manu s on Green, but Danny's shooting + defense has more of an impact than Manu's game does in any facet, at this point..

[Spursfanfromafar]

Green is a much better defender, as well..

Obviously as an overall basketball player, Manu s on Green, but Danny's shooting + defense has more of an impact than Manu's game does in any facet, at this point..

Naah.. Manu is a better defender, still. Better at post-defense and perhaps even one-on-one defense. Uncanny at stealing/swiping the ball away, possibly Top 3 gamblers in the guard category and better help defender.

Green is more athletic at this point, was fantastic as a transition defender this season but still mistake prone (so is Manu but he compensates more and gives up less).

[xmas1997]

I have no doubt Manu will be back, just not as good as he was. Players this good don't decline that fast and the Spurs FO knows this better than any of us do, otherwise he would not have been given the contract he was given, IMHO.

[Diego20]

Manu is still with the team for 2 years but I think almost if not every posters here doesn't expect him to be our 3rd best player anymore. Maybe last year, he was still part of the Big 3 but from this point on, there's clearly another better player with bigger expectations from his team and us fans and obviously, that is Kawhi. Having said that, a lot is still expected out of Manu for the upcoming season with him needing to prove that he's worth the decision and the MONEY the Spurs gave him and also, him trying to make up for his poor showing in the Finals.

Manu was our second best player, not the 3rd one. Actually he was our best player between 2005-2008.

[therealtruth]

Naah.. Manu is a better defender, still. Better at post-defense and perhaps even one-on-one defense. Uncanny at stealing/swiping the ball away, possibly Top 3 gamblers in the guard category and better help defender.

Green is more athletic at this point, was fantastic as a transition defender this season but still mistake prone (so is Manu but he compensates more and gives up less).

So Manu would have stopped Lebron on the break as much as DG did?