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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    First, I love Danny Green. I wish more players could embody the hard work that he's put in and could grow the way he has. I'm not making this trade because I dislike Green in the least.

    That being said, I am starting to come around to the idea that trading DG would actually be in the Spurs best interest. Why?

    Perception of value

    His value has never been higher and its tough to see it ever being higher than it is now. Coming off a finals were he sets the 3 point record and plays some pretty good defense I cannot see DG ever surpassing the value he's at now. Even if he plays extremely well in the coming season its not the same as doing what he did on the biggest stage in the NBA.

    Ceiling

    Danny Green has likely hit his ceiling. He can't improve much on his shot at this point and you pretty much never see players become good finishers at this point in DG's career. He'll be a very good 3 point shooter who gives you solid defense but he's never going to be someone who creates or is the focal point of an offense.

    Manu

    Manu probably needs to start at this point in his career. I don't believe that he's capable of being a player who makes the 2nd unit better the way he used to in the past. In order for Manu to be fully effective I think he's going to have to take DG's spot in the starting lineup and feed off of being surrounded by players who are just as good. This is probably the biggest factor for me, honestly.

    Too many guards not enough small forwards

    The Spurs have a serious log jam at the 2 right now. Should they sign Neal as we've heard reports of today then that only gets larger. Something has got to give and while trading DeColo and/or Mills would help with this neither is going to bring back much of anything outside of slight salary relief.

    Danny Green has a small contract for his production and I think by pairing him in a trade with Bonner and/or Diaw the Spurs can actually probably entice a team out there to get an asset or two that actually help the team.

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    Did not read.

    and the answer is No.

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    manu shouldn't be starting, he should be retiring.

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    Durand Scott = acc defensive player of the year ................... scott will make green expendable ......................

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    Danny Green is successful because of the system, he can hit shots but it's his role that he's been wide open to hit those shots. Spurs need to package guys that don't have a role as a Spur, named De Colo/Mills/Bonner

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    DG isn't going anywhere.

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    and the answer is No.
    In the immortal words of Sean Elliott: "I told you 'no.' Please, take that back. That's not good enough. ... please. You're working hard, but the answer is 'no.'"
    Last edited by Chinook; 07-09-2013 at 07:01 PM.

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    Shooting guards come a dime a dozen in the NBA. Its the easiest position to replace. Its the same reason PG/SG hybrids are flourishing.

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    Durand Scott = acc defensive player of the year ................... scott will make green expendable ......................
    , please stop...

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    Too many guards not enough small forwards
    You want to trade the starting sg for a backup sf?

    What position do people want to trade Green for? If you want you can mention some players you have in mind.

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    With the glut of guards, this is an option that you have to at least look into. Who knows what some dumbass team might offer up?

    I'd like to see a little He Who Dares, Wins out of the FO. You have to give up good to get good back. True in everyday life too...

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    Shooting guards come a dime a dozen in the NBA. Its the easiest position to replace. Its the same reason PG/SG hybrids are flourishing.
    The shooting-guard position is actually extraordinarily thin nowadays, which is why teams are trying to trot out combo-guards at the two spot. Legitimate two-guards like Green are pretty rare nowadays.

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    The shooting-guard position is actually extraordinarily thin nowadays, which is why teams are trying to trot out combo-guards at the two spot. Legitimate two-guards like Green are pretty rare nowadays.
    Exactly, especially with size and stroke.

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    Wish we could grow one of our guards a couple inches and add a couple pounds to them.

    And make them Kawhi's back-up.

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    Trading away an underpaid 26 year old whose career TS% is .587% is probably a bad idea.

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    I actually would have liked to see us make a play for Paul Pierce believe it or not. Let him play two years with Manu and Duncan and all retire at the same time. All that money coming off the books and Pierce would have been huge for a try at a 5th ring for Duncan. A line up of Parker/Pierce/Leonard/Duncan/Splitter....I'll take it. Pierce averaged 19/6/5 last year at the age of 35.

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    I actually would have liked to see us make a play for Paul Pierce believe it or not. Let him play two years with Manu and Duncan and all retire at the same time. All that money coming off the books and Pierce would have been huge for a try at a 5th ring for Duncan. A line up of Parker/Pierce/Leonard/Duncan/Splitter....I'll take it. Pierce averaged 19/6/5 last year at the age of 35.
    That would have been a step down from the current starting lineup, in my opinion. Pierce is not a two-guard, and neither is Leonard. Paul off the bench with Ginobili would have been something, though.

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    Trading away an underpaid 26 year old whose career TS% is .587% is probably a bad idea.
    Depends what you get back.

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    Depends what you get back.
    The same can be said of trading any player.

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    That would have been a step down from the current starting lineup, in my opinion. Pierce is not a two-guard, and neither is Leonard. Paul off the bench with Ginobili would have been something, though.
    Thats kinda the point. We dont need a two-guard. And Green was our weakest link on the starting line-up all year. Yes he had a great 3 games in the Finals but the rest of the year he was sub par. 10 points/gm from your starting SG is replacable.

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    First, I love Danny Green. I wish more players could embody the hard work that he's put in and could grow the way he has. I'm not making this trade because I dislike Green in the least.

    That being said, I am starting to come around to the idea that trading DG would actually be in the Spurs best interest. Why?

    Perception of value

    His value has never been higher and its tough to see it ever being higher than it is now. Coming off a finals were he sets the 3 point record and plays some pretty good defense I cannot see DG ever surpassing the value he's at now. Even if he plays extremely well in the coming season its not the same as doing what he did on the biggest stage in the NBA.

    Ceiling

    Danny Green has likely hit his ceiling. He can't improve much on his shot at this point and you pretty much never see players become good finishers at this point in DG's career. He'll be a very good 3 point shooter who gives you solid defense but he's never going to be someone who creates or is the focal point of an offense.

    Manu

    Manu probably needs to start at this point in his career. I don't believe that he's capable of being a player who makes the 2nd unit better the way he used to in the past. In order for Manu to be fully effective I think he's going to have to take DG's spot in the starting lineup and feed off of being surrounded by players who are just as good. This is probably the biggest factor for me, honestly.

    Too many guards not enough small forwards

    The Spurs have a serious log jam at the 2 right now. Should they sign Neal as we've heard reports of today then that only gets larger. Something has got to give and while trading DeColo and/or Mills would help with this neither is going to bring back much of anything outside of slight salary relief.

    Danny Green has a small contract for his production and I think by pairing him in a trade with Bonner and/or Diaw the Spurs can actually probably entice a team out there to get an asset or two that actually help the team.
    I really don't think trading Danny Green is an awful idea for a lot of the reasons you pointed out. Danny Green is okay on D, and a good 3 point shooter. That being said he is obviously extremely one dimensional, he can't even finish at the rim, he can't dribble, he can't create his own shot. Yet as you said, after the Finals his value is high, and he has a small contract. He would be very good to package with someone we don't want, to take in someone we need. That being said, I don't think we should entertain a trade, unless we are getting either or starter, or an obvious future starter.

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    DG isn't going anywhere.
    End of thread.......

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    Not enough creators off the bench. As much as Manu has declined, where would the offense in the second unit come from?

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    You're not going to get equal value for Green tbh, even with packaging him alongside Bonner. Also, Green hasn't hit his ceiling yet; he has a couple things he can add to his game to make him a legitimate Top 5 SG in the league (a counter for defense's running him off the 3-pt line, improvement on his team D, improvement on his passing) and I'm still not convinced he can't become a better finisher.

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    It's a 2 year window and you are talking about trading away a core member of the team. A guy whose first taste of the playoffs was horrible, so he improved himself leaps and bounds for his 2nd go round. I expect Danny to improve again and be an important playoff weapon for the team again, and with his added experience a guy who will also come up money in games 6 and 7 instead of just 1-5.

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