Yahoo: Spurs' talks for Andrei Kirilenko end without deal

[Floyd Pacquiao]

with no official announcements the Spurs are still wheeling and dealing tbh.

[szkorhetz]

I am pretty sure AK will be a Spur at the end of the day.

[ducks]

sign trade or what

[Texas_Ranger]

So what is in the Spurs package? Probably a 1st and a 2nd rounder, but what players. I guess Bonner and De Colo/Joseph/Mills.

[objective]

Sign-and-trades always confuse me a bit...for the Spurs to acquire AK47 via sign-and-trade, would they need to match salaries?

I think the rule is that the Spurs can take back 150% + 100k. So if the Spurs send out 5 million they can take back 7.6, though Bruno would know more.

[Bruno]

I think the rule is that the Spurs can take back 150% + 100k. So if the Spurs send out 5 million they can take back 7.6, though Bruno would know more.

Yep, that's that for S&T not involving cap space which is the case here.

[Texas_Ranger]

I think the rule is that the Spurs can take back 150% + 100k. So if the Spurs send out 5 million they can take back 7.6, though Bruno would know more.

so that would make Bonner and one of the unproven guard. I could live with that.

[timvp]

If they get Martin through a S&T including Ridnour and then sign Brewer with the MLE, they will have only the LLE left but they will still have Kirilenko Bird rights. A motivation for doing that would be to do a S&T with Kirilenko. WOJ reported that Minny liked some of Spurs package but weren't ready to take back the salaries. With Ridnour dumped, they might be able to do so.

I wonder if Bonner, Mills and De Colo plus a first rounder would be appetizing enough...

[TheGoldStandard]

this is why we can't have nice things

This is why

[coyotes_geek]

Sign-and-trades always confuse me a bit...for the Spurs to acquire AK47 via sign-and-trade, would they need to match salaries?

Depends whether the trade would leave them over the cap or not. If over, yes they would need to match. That same 150%+$100k scenario would still apply, so assuming AK would want $8mil next year, the Spurs would need to send out $5.27mil in salary. If under, no need to match.

[timvp]

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
Deal is done sending ex-Nuggets guard Corey Brewer to Minnesota, source tells Y! Sports

Deal as in contract or deal as in trade?

[Texas_Ranger]

would the Spurs be willing to give them 2 1st rounders?

[SpursSerb]

would the Spurs be willing to give them 2 1st rounders?

I hope not.

[ace3g]

Deal as in contract or deal as in trade?

Not sure, figured he was typing the rest of the tweet up with the details, lol

[lurker23]

I think the rule is that the Spurs can take back 150% + 100k. So if the Spurs send out 5 million they can take back 7.6, though Bruno would know more.

Yep, that's that for S&T not involving cap space which is the case here.

Thanks guys. Given rumored Kirilenko salaries, seems that something like Bonner + De Colo (+picks) would be enough.

[ducks]

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[spurraider21]

This is why

[coyotes_geek]

I wonder if Bonner, Mills and De Colo plus a first rounder would be appetizing enough...

If not, would Green, Mills & De Colo?

Would the Spurs still be interested at that point?

[Ron Swanson]

would the Spurs be willing to give them 2 1st rounders?

I hope not. If we're trying to reload after 2014-15, we may need that 1st rounder.

[Texas_Ranger]

I hope not.

the picks would be most likely from pick 25-30. The problem is that they sometimes get a quality player with that low of a pick.

[coyotes_geek]

would the Spurs be willing to give them 2 1st rounders?

Better not. We're on a 2 year plan with a pretty high likelihood that after that period our 1st round picks will be much, much higher than we're accustomed to.

[TheGoldStandard]

I hope not. If we're trying to reload after 2014-15, we may need that 1st rounder.

I can see 1 first rounder but not 2... the way it looks they'd probably give up Green before they ever deal Bonner.

[ducks]

spurs need to win now!

[SpursSerb]

I would give 2 first round,but for Derrick Williams.

[lurker23]

If not, would Green, Mills & De Colo?

Would the Spurs still be interested at that point?

I personally think adding Green would be a deal-breaker for the Spurs. That said, if the Spurs give up 2 or 3 guards in the trade, it would make the "Neal back to SA" rumors make more sense.