Yahoo: Spurs' talks for Andrei Kirilenko end without deal

[cd98]

That would be such bull if true.

The T'Wolves are largely responsible for that last Celtic le. A lot of people thought that Garnett trade had more to do with helping out the Celtics then really getting enough value in return.

[objective]

Also, Minnesota cleaned house in the front office. Nobody there now feels like they owe Kirilenko a damn thing. Combine that with Flip generally being a failure at his jobs in the past . . . nothing stupid by Flip would surprise me.

[UZER]

The T'Wolves are largely responsible for that last Celtic le. A lot of people thought that Garnett trade had more to do with helping out the Celtics then really getting enough value in return.

Which is why I say under handed deals are done wirh big markets that small markets cant afford to do.

[ducks]

Per the twitter link above it said that teams will often accommdate a player's wish for a sign and trade. I'm referring to that not being enough to work with the Spurs on the piss poor package of Bonner, Mills, and De Colo. Obviously they need something back to motivate them. But I think they want something back that hurts the Spurs too much to give up, be it a first round draft pick or a player like Green.

yeah blame the front office
if they included greeen or first round picks people would be pissed if no deal people will be pissed

[exstatic]

The T'Wolves are largely responsible for that last Celtic le. A lot of people thought that Garnett trade had more to do with helping out the Celtics then really getting enough value in return.

That was crap because McHale, a former Celtic, sold him for pennies on the dollar to his former team. Flip has no such connection here.

[Ocotillo]

Almost time for the local TV news and nothing to report regarding signings.

[ducks]

22 pages
oh no the deal will not happen now
we should stop posting LOL

[spursince#99]

The absence of recognition for our previous signings is quite bizarre.

[apalisoc_9]

I'll close my computer now. I still have a few things i need to do anyway. Offseason making me so unproductive..

[ducks]

well with ak47 things have to get done soon

[Leetonidas]

[heyheymymy]

The absence of recognition for our previous signings is quite bizarre.

[monkeypunk]

http://fansided.com/2013/07/10/minne...antonio-spurs/

Minnesota Timberwolves Refuse to Trade Andrei Kirilenko to San Antonio Spurs

Often times, teams are more than willing to help a former player work out a sign and trade deal with an opposing team as it’s better to get some type of asset(s) than to leave empty handed.

That’s not a philosophy the Minnesota Timberwolves are employing when it comes to a sign and trade deal with Andrei Kirilenko – at least not right now.

Reports surfaced last night that the San Antonio Spurs had contacted the Wolves in an attempt to sign and trade for the Russian born small forward, who they’ve hand a long standing interest in. Unable to sign him outright, the Spurs were hopeful they could engage the T’Wolves in a deal but they apparently had no interest in helping the Spurs get better or assisting a Western Conference rival.

Per Yahoo Sports:

The Spurs seriously considered a multiyear offer for Kirilenko, but Minnesota general manager Flip Saunders has shown little, if any, inclination to assist him in securing a significant financial contract elsewhere, sources said.

I don't know what kind of rival we are, when they may not even make the playoffs. By the time their team gels enough to contend (if they ever do), we'll be post td and mg and working to remain relevant ourselves.

Not sure that is the real impetus for them declining the s&t.

[ducks]

Marc Stein‏@ESPNSteinLine32m
To get full $12M in Year 1 from Cavs, Bynum would have to hit loads of contract benchmarks. And Year 2, of course, would be at Cavs' option

ak47 could go to cavs if he wants money

[xmas1997]

I'll close my computer now. I still have a few things i need to do anyway. Offseason making me so unproductive..

Yeah, I don't know about the rest of you, but I've been on this site all day to see if we get AK47 and so far nothing. And no mention of the other signings either, so I wonder what's up!

[cd98]

That was crap because McHale, a former Celtic, sold him for pennies on the dollar to his former team. Flip has no such connection here.

Right. But the reporters, talking heads, other teams, etc. give teams when they sell out key players to another team for pittance. See Grizzlies Gasol trade when it went down. Same with the Garnett trade. Thanks to Kahn, the T'Wolves' front office has taken a hit on its reputation, so I'm sure Flip is trying to be a bit more hard nosed.

[coyotes_geek]

By my estimate, there's a 100% chance that OKC is gumming up the works here. Presti doesn't want to S&T Martin to Minnesota if that's going to result in AK getting S&T'd to San Antonio. If I'm Presti, right now I'm telling Flip that I'm not going to be interested in an S&T until he's renounced AK. That puts Flip and the Spurs into the position of having to figure out an S&T deal that puts Minnesota under the cap by enough to sign Martin with capspace.

[ducks]

it send thunder a pick and get her done

[ducks]

payback would be to take kevin love when he is a fa
be funnest if they get ak47 and love when he is a fa

[gameFACE]

So Spurstalk wants to pay AK $7-10M to come off the bench? That's a horrible idea.

And please don't come back with Manu salary comparisons. Manu earned the $14M/per year contract he had, as well as the $7M/per year contract he just agreed to. Three NBA les and a decade of excellence command some financial respect.

I'm not sure how else AK would fit in. Kawhi is going to start. A starting lineup of Parker, Leonard, AK, Duncan and Splitter would be awkward. You start out real big then all of a sudden your second unit is real small.

I'd still like to know who the Spurs were packaging. Maybe Green.

[Seventyniner]

By my estimate, there's a 100% chance that OKC is gumming up the works here. Presti doesn't want to S&T Martin to Minnesota if that's going to result in AK getting S&T'd to San Antonio. If I'm Presti, right now I'm telling Flip that I'm not going to be interested in an S&T until he's renounced AK. That puts Flip and the Spurs into the position of having to figure out an S&T deal that puts Minnesota under the cap by enough to sign Martin with capspace.

What if the Wolves play hardball and say that the Thunder have until X date to accept or reject the Martin S&T? I've never heard of a deal being contingent on something like renouncing a FA before.

[RD2191]

Wolves can suck a , hope all their players blow their ACL's.

[spurraider21]

I'm not sure how else AK would fit in. Kawhi is going to start. A starting lineup of Parker, Leonard, AK, Duncan and Splitter would be awkward. You start out real big then all of a sudden your second unit is real small.

I'd still like to know who the Spurs were packaging. Maybe Green.

No chance Green is in the deal. If he was, Minnesota would take that without flinching for a second. Remember, Kirilenko is going to walk anyway. If there was a player like Green in the deal, its as if they're getting him for free, and he's a pretty darn good player.

[yavozerb]

All this over AK at age 32. If he get signed at a REASONABLE price great, if not no big deal..Damn, its funny how AK is ok 8+ mil but Tiago and Manu are overpaid. Everybody needs to take a step back and catch your breath.

[TXstbobcat]

Wolves can suck a , hope all their players blow their ACL's.

with all the wolves injury problems the last 2 years, I wouldn't be surprised if it happened.