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    What if the Wolves play hardball and say that the Thunder have until X date to accept or reject the Martin S&T? I've never heard of a deal being contingent on something like renouncing a FA before.
    Presti: Okay fine. We reject it. Now go renounce AK so that you have cap space to sign Martin.

    Unfortunately for the Spurs, Minnesota doesn't have any leverage with OKC here.

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    All this over AK at age 32. If he get signed at a REASONABLE price great, if not no big deal..Damn, its funny how AK is ok 8+ mil but Tiago and Manu are overpaid. Everybody needs to take a step back and catch your breath.
    THIS X10000. Aren't you guys tired of getting basketball geriatrics every year to an already old team? Sure, he still has alot left in the tank and would help us a good deal but we shouldn't be all stressed out over this happening or not.

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    I am not stressed I am not in the spurs front office right now

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    No chance Green is in the deal. If he was, Minnesota would take that without flinching for a second. Remember, Kirilenko is going to walk anyway. If there was a player like Green in the deal, its as if they're getting him for free, and he's a pretty darn good player.
    I hope Green wouldn't be. But you have to have something in the deal besides the players everyone usually wants to get rid of like Bonner/Mills/DeCoco. Unless Flip is Isiah Thomas stupid.

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    no kl,duncan or parker
    any one else to get the deal done ok

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    Presti: Okay fine. We reject it. Now go renounce AK so that you have cap space to sign Martin.

    Unfortunately for the Spurs, Minnesota doesn't have any leverage with OKC here.
    I guess if OC doesn't want the TE then sure. I know they won't use it fully because they're so close to the tax, but it could be used to take back a slightly more expensive player than they otherwise could.

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    THIS X10000. Aren't you guys tired of getting basketball geriatrics every year to an already old team? Sure, he still has alot left in the tank and would help us a good deal but we shouldn't be all stressed out over this happening or not.
    Not tired at all about guys like Diaw and Kirilenko... Boris is older than Tiago and he took a huge dump on him once again in the POs. Age isn't everything, there s a huge gap between guys around 30 who can contribute big time and complete tosb throwing the ball in the crowd like Manu who got a contract to sell jerseys and tickets.

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    I guess if OC doesn't want the TE then sure. I know they won't use it fully because they're so close to the tax, but it could be used to take back a slightly more expensive player than they otherwise could.
    I'm sure they want the TE, but if giving up the TE keeps AK off the Spurs, then they're going to be okay without it.

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    All this over AK at age 32. If he get signed at a REASONABLE price great, if not no big deal..Damn, its funny how AK is ok 8+ mil but Tiago and Manu are overpaid. Everybody needs to take a step back and catch your breath.
    I tend to agree, though, Ak would be productive In SA. 9m a year productive? idk. AK or no AK, he probably isn't worth all this fuss tbh. fans are just anxious for the spurs to make some sort of splash.

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    the fans want this because the big 3 era is officially coming to a close, with all their contracts set to expire after 2014-2015. the franchise owes it to them to put them in the best possible position to succeed until that time

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    There isn't a thing the Spurs front office could or could not do that would be any more disappointing than the ending of Game 6. Not gonna phase me if we don't get AK.

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    I tend to agree, though, Ak would be productive In SA. 9m a year productive? idk. AK or no AK, he probably isn't worth all this fuss tbh. fans are just anxious for the spurs to make some sort of splash.
    He'd be worth every cent in the PO. Tiago is not worth it but AK is, there's no lineup that would force him out of a series, very high BBiQ, great defender, tough... Just like Boris he'd be awesome on this team.

    He just came off his most efficient season scoring the ball btw.

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    who will report the ak47 deal first?

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    who will report the ak47 deal first?
    the Spurs at their press conference

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    the fans want this because the big 3 era is officially coming to a close, with all their contracts set to expire after 2014-2015. the franchise owes it to them to put them in the best possible position to succeed until that time
    If it's there, fine. If not, I'd be ok with just the Marco signing and wait to see how Kawhi steps up his game and hope we can pull off a trade by the trade deadline...maybe by then, there will be more useful players available?

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    He'd be worth every cent in the PO. Tiago is not worth it but AK is, there's no lineup that would force him out of a series, very high BBiQ, great defender, tough... Just like Boris he'd be awesome on this team.

    He just came off his most efficient season scoring the ball btw.
    What makes you say this? Do you realize that AK has never made an entire NBA season(minus shortened season) in his entire career? Do you realize his career numbers in playoffs are 10 ppg, 4rpg, in 30 mpg. I hate throwing numbers out there but damn what else do we have to go on? I like AK's defense and hustle also, but for his asking salary I say no way.

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    ak47 is the most usefully player that can be had

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    I'm sure they want the TE, but if giving up the TE keeps AK off the Spurs, then they're going to be okay without it.
    Point taken. But would they forego the TE even though AK to the Spurs isn't assured if they do take it? A fascinating game of chicken indeed. If this wheeling and dealing really is playing out this way, I really hope Woj or someone else well-connected writes an in-depth piece before training camp.

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    What makes you say this? Do you realize that AK has never made an entire NBA season(minus shortened season) in his entire career? Do you realize his career numbers in playoffs are 10 ppg, 4rpg, in 30 mpg. I hate throwing numbers out there but damn what else do we have to go on? I like AK's defense and hustle also, but for his asking salary I say no way.
    he would be ok with pop with limiting his minutes
    he is NO WORSE THEN MANU
    he never was one a really good team in postseason
    he is not going to be the first three option number 4 and 5 he will be fine
    he also can create for others something spurs need

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    He'd be worth every cent in the PO. Tiago is not worth it but AK is, there's no lineup that would force him out of a series, very high BBiQ, great defender, tough... Just like Boris he'd be awesome on this team.

    He just came off his most efficient season scoring the ball btw.
    Idk man, I can't think of a time where AK was on a team that made a deep playoff run or where he was a factor in a playoff series at all, so I'm not sure I can take THAT optimistic of a view. I'll give you the tough part.

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    jazz teams sucked
    good enough to make the playoffs but that was it and not good enough to beat kobe and the lakers

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    aren't the cavs currently pursuing kirilenko (as a backup to bynum) ?

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    WTF happened in between the 23 pages of this thread that it started with the Spurs talks for AK ended to there being optimism that the Spurs are going to do a S&T with Minny for him? Serious question.

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    WTF happened in between the 23 pages of this thread that it started with the Spurs talks for AK ended to there being optimism that the Spurs are going to do a S&T with Minny for him? Serious question.
    I think mostly the fact that the Spurs have yet to announce any signings, and that Minnesota might not have to renounce AK47 to get Brewer and Martin (as cap flexibility was one of the reasons stated that Minny didn't want to do it).

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    WTF happened in between the 23 pages of this thread that it started with the Spurs talks for AK ended to there being optimism that the Spurs are going to do a S&T with Minny for him? Serious question.

    well the whole le was misleading. there really has never been any definitive statement from any of the teams involved and whenever there is speculation there is also doubt and/or hope.

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