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  1. #26
    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    It's just an IQ thing with Dwight...nothing more nothing less

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    you can't ask the powers that be to put Dwight along side high IQ players like Kobe, Nash, and Pau and expect him to survive...it's like throwing a giant Tuna fish in a pond with Great Whites and Killer Whales

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    you can't ask the powers that be to put Dwight along side high IQ players like Kobe, Nash, and Pau and expect him to survive...it's like throwing a giant Tuna fish in a pond with Great Whites and Killer Whales



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    This is a run and gun team. McHale will use Howard the same way that Coach K used him on Team USA.

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    Chandlers rating is boosted massively by most of his points coming from point blank shots from offensive rebounds
    Offensive rating is how many points your team scores per 100 possessions while you're on the floor. The fact that Chandler's ORtg is so high implies that he improves the offense dramatically when he's on the floor. That could be the case even if he didn't score a single point.

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    Offensive rating is how many points your team scores per 100 possessions while you're on the floor. The fact that Chandler's ORtg is so high implies that he improves the offense dramatically when he's on the floor. That could be the case even if he didn't score a single point.
    Thought it was the individual? Couldn't imagine biedrins or pj brown (who won it previously) having that great an impact on their teams as screeners

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    Thought it was the individual? Couldn't imagine biedrins or pj brown (who won it previously) having that great an impact on their teams as screeners
    Screeners, assist-heavy guards and floor-spacers often lead the league in ORtg, because that kind of stuff really helps an offense more than the individual player scoring. Think about it this way: Splitter can only score when he has the ball in his hands. He can set a good screen or box out his man to allow a Duncan or Leonard put-back on every single possession. If your specialty is helping your teammates score, you're going to be a very good player on offense, even if you don't score.

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    https://www.numberfire.com/nba/news/...ve-season-ever

    According to this, it's how many points the individual scores per 100 possessions.

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    I admit I was wrong. It is my rule when I make my fantasy team that the PF must has the ability to hit jumpers on the perimeter, but it doesn't always apply to every team. I choose them Mavs most times (supposedly) so I'm kinda used to the pick and pop play, which have gradually become a synonym of pick and roll in my book imho.

    Some teams and players may still do good in P'n'R without jumpers but most PFs (even including Amare) have developed jump shooting games, I think it's kind of become a trend in the league. It's like when all major countries have upgraded their infantries to mechanized infantries, your troops are still marching on foot. You can still be a good team with Arbeloa or a rejuvenated Paulo Ferreira playing full back for you, but those fullbacks who stay on their own half pitch throughout their lifetimes are no longer in vogue imho.

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    Machacarredes Chinook's Avatar
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    https://www.numberfire.com/nba/news/...ve-season-ever

    According to this, it's how many points the individual scores per 100 possessions.
    That's misguided. It's based on "points produced", not point's scored.

    "Offensive Rating" is a statistic used in basketball to measure either a team's offensive performance or an individual player's efficiency at producing points for the offense. It was created by author and statistician Dean Oliver.For teams, the formula is: 100 x Pts / (Tm FGA + .40 x Tm FTA - 1.07 x (Tm ORB / (Tm ORB + Tm DRB)) x (Tm FGA - Tm FG) + Tm TO)[1]
    For players, the formula is: Offensive Rating = (Points Produced / Individual Possessions) x 100
    Points can be produced through field goals, free throws, assists, and offensive rebounds. Individual possessions are the sum of a player's scoring possessions (field goals, free throws, plus partial credit for assists), missed field goals and free throws that the defense rebounds, and turnovers.
    Both definitions are pretty much the same, but I guess individual offensive rating is a little more complicated that I realized.

    So depending on how ORtg is defined, it can suggest either that Chandler makes his team better by being on the floor, or that he makes great decisions with the ball when he has it while also getting his team extra possessions. Even if the number I was citing comes from the latter definition, the fact that he has been top-10 in WS/48 each of the last three seasons supports that he raises his team's offensive rating as well as his own.

  11. #36
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    PNR ain't the most efficient way to use him when he can't even hit an elephant with the ball a few yards away. DH is just a glamorized TC with ty personality. Bigs need to have the ability to hit jumpers to be efficient in PNR imho
    We love Tiago Splitters work out of the PnR, and he is no shooter. If he could dunk like Dwight, omg. But I am pretty sure that after the Lakers got Steve Nash and Dwight Howard last year I read that Nash was the best in setting up the PnR and Howard was the best in finishing it when rolling to the basket. So on paper you had the best PnR combination in one team, thats why its astounding to read Nashs comments ... DH really is an idiot.

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