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    If the Wolves complete the sign-and-trade for AK and use the MLE on Brewer, they can take their time with Kirilenko. There won't be any deadlines for them or the Spurs at that point.
    Except for the deadline (July 16) to amnesty Bonner (if we cannot get another team to take his contract), right?

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    Lets just hope the spurs have a plan B for the SF position. Going into the season with that many guards and only 1 SF would be pretty bad.

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    They have a ton of flexibility, they can shed a lot of deals after this coming season, they could easily cut Varejao, Gee and Clark and save 16Mil next season.
    Do you honestly think that AK is worth all of that? Not to mention, you want to keep the "cupboards" as full as you can to lure LBJ back.

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    Lets just hope the spurs have a plan B for the SF position. Goong into the season with that many guards and only 1 SF would be pretty bad.
    If the Spurs don't get AK, we're pretty close to the point where Danny Green makes a better SF than anyone else who would be attainable.

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    Except for the deadline (July 16) to amnesty Bonner (if we cannot get another team to take his contract), right?
    I doubt the Spurs intend on amnestying him at all. There's no need to, as his expiring deal is more valuable on the roster. The Spurs will be over the cap either way.

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    Lets just hope the spurs have a plan B for the SF position. Going into the season with that many guards and only 1 SF would be pretty bad.
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    Do you honestly think that AK is worth all of that? Not to mention, you want to keep the "cupboards" as full as you can to lure LBJ back.
    No, not for AK but they could take on AK's contract and easily have cash to sway LBJ back.. They've positioned themselves to be quite young with scorers and a solid PG with tons of cash left over to get him over.

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    Haven't kept up if they've signed anyone besides Bynum yet, but if they haven't it looks like they could have around $8M.
    Jack for 7mil a year and they have an additional 6mil tied to their 1st round picks leaving them at around 55mil salaries with these salaries. Best they can offer is the MLE to AK. Looks like that will be all any team will be able to offer AK. So the Spurs could sign AK with MLE and do a S&T for Marco and give the Bulls their 2nd round pick in next year's draft. I believe the Spurs have the Raptors 2nd round pick in next year's draft as well.

    So AK might take a 2 year deal with the Spurs with a PO and opt next year the Spurs can sign him to like a 6mil a year deal for 3 years. It just might boil down to if Kirilenko is willing to give up 9 mil over a 4 year deal to play with a contender.
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    I realize that they play different positions, but is there any way that Minnesota is stalling on the deal for AK because of the unsettled negotiations with Pekovic? It was reported that they had settled on a 4yr/$50M contract, but his camp denied it and is holding out for more. Perhaps Minnesota will reconsider adding AK on a 2-3 year deal if Pekovic's deal falls through and they toss a smaller amount at another PF/C FA? Just a thought.

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    I realize that they play different positions, but is there any way that Minnesota is stalling on the deal for AK because of the unsettled negotiations with Pekovic? It was reported that they had settled on a 4yr/$50M contract, but his camp denied it and is holding out for more. Perhaps Minnesota will reconsider adding AK on a 2-3 year deal if Pekovic's deal falls through and they toss a smaller amount at another PF/C FA? Just a thought.
    I hardly doubt AK goes back to Minny. There seems to be a reason he gave up 10+mil this season to leave. For one, it looks like he doesn't like Flip, and quite honestly Flip is a .

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    I hardly doubt AK goes back to Minny. There seems to be a reason he gave up 10+mil this season to leave. For one, it looks like doesn't like Flip, and quite honestly Flip is a .
    Flip doesn't know how to run a team.

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    Irving/ jack
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    Clark/ gee
    Thompson/ bennet
    Bynum/ varejao/ zeller

    If Bynum plays and is healthy, they could be a
    4-5 seed. Imo

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    Knowing how the spurs have been doing things lately I say they use the guards they have on the roster to play the SF position at some point. Pop only has 2 positons in his offense bigs and smalls.

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    I hardly doubt AK goes back to Minny. There seems to be a reason he gave up 10+mil this season to leave. For one, it looks like he doesn't like Flip, and quite honestly Flip is a .
    I always took AK's willingness to walk because of the desire for a long term deal. I don't recall reading anything negative about his stay in Minnesota or a strong desire to leave. Flip may be a , as you say, but obviously AK is familiar with the team and if they up the ante and offer a deal that he is looking for - I find it hard to believe that he'd turn it down.

    With all that being said, I was just speculating and don't know how likely (if at all) the scenario is.

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    Jack for 7mil a year an they have an additional 6mil tied to their 1st round picks leaving them at around 55mil salaries with these salaries. Best they can offer is the MLE to AK. Looks like that will be all any team will be able to offer AK. So the Spurs could sign AK with MLE and do a S&T for Marco and give the Bulls their 2nd round pick in next year's draft. I believe the Spurs have the Raptors 2nd round pick in next year's draft as well.

    So AK might take a 2 year deal with the Spurs with a PO and opt next year the Spurs can sign him to like a 6mil a year deal for 3 years. It just might boil down to if Kirilenko is willing to give up 9 mil over a 4 year deal to play with a contender.
    Forgot about Jack. Good catch. Jack's deal is going to start around $6.

    I had the $6m for the draft picks in there.

    Cleveland does have another $4 they could free up by cutting guys with unguaranteed deals. So, from my $8 estimate, subtract $6 for jack and add $4 for the unguaranteed guys and they're at $6 mil they could offer to AK.

    Since cleveland has capspace they don't get the MLE.

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    Forgot about Jack. Good catch. Jack's deal is going to start around $6.

    I had the $6m for the draft picks in there.

    Cleveland does have another $4 they could free up by cutting guys with unguaranteed deals. So, from my $8 estimate, subtract $6 for jack and add $4 for the unguaranteed guys and they're at $6 mil they could offer to AK.

    Since cleveland has capspace they don't get the MLE.
    If we could get close to the money that Cleveland can offer, there is NO WAY that AK chooses the Cavs over the Spurs.

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    I realize that they play different positions, but is there any way that Minnesota is stalling on the deal for AK because of the unsettled negotiations with Pekovic? It was reported that they had settled on a 4yr/$50M contract, but his camp denied it and is holding out for more. Perhaps Minnesota will reconsider adding AK on a 2-3 year deal if Pekovic's deal falls through and they toss a smaller amount at another PF/C FA? Just a thought.
    I don't think it's that. I think what's holding things up is that OKC doesn't want to S&T Martin to them if it's going to result in AK getting S&T'd to San Antonio. Minnesota is probably figuring out if there's a way to get Martin without OKC's help as well as be able to S&T AK for something.

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    If we could get close to the money that Cleveland can offer, there is NO WAY that AK chooses the Cavs over the Spurs.
    Would certainly think so, but you never know.

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    I always took AK's willingness to walk because of the desire for a long term deal. I don't recall reading anything negative about his stay in Minnesota or a strong desire to leave. Flip may be a , as you say, but obviously AK is familiar with the team and if they up the ante and offer a deal that he is looking for - I find it hard to believe that he'd turn it down.

    With all that being said, I was just speculating and don't know how likely (if at all) the scenario is.
    Flip has just been there for only two months now. AK opted out and there was never he a hint that he wanted to return to Minny. And the recent events that Flip didn't want to help AK out in any way to sign with a contender, that would leave a bad taste in my mouth if I was a player.
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    I doubt the Spurs intend on amnestying him at all. There's no need to, as his expiring deal is more valuable on the roster. The Spurs will be over the cap either way.
    some good expiring contracts did for us this season. we were thrilled that Jax's contract was expiring, and we ended up resigning players and using the MLE anyway. big whoop.

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    some good expiring contracts did for us this season. we were thrilled that Jax's contract was expiring, and we ended up resigning players and using the MLE anyway. big whoop.
    Come on now, we all know Tiago Splitter is going to be the future big man the Spurs need and Manu is going to have an MVP like season off the bench.

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    Forgot about Jack. Good catch. Jack's deal is going to start around $6.

    I had the $6m for the draft picks in there.

    Cleveland does have another $4 they could free up by cutting guys with unguaranteed deals. So, from my $8 estimate, subtract $6 for jack and add $4 for the unguaranteed guys and they're at $6 mil they could offer to AK.

    Since cleveland has capspace they don't get the MLE.
    According to this, Cleveland has very little left to offer AK:
    Bob Finnan tweets that the Bynum deal exhausted the Cavs' cap room, though I believe they'll still have about $3MM left once Bynum signs his contract. If the Cavs are out of cap space, they could use their $2.652MM room exception, so either way, they don't have much room to give Kirilenko a salary that comes close to what he turned down from Minnesota.

    http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2013/07/c...medium=twitter

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    some good expiring contracts did for us this season. we were thrilled that Jax's contract was expiring, and we ended up resigning players and using the MLE anyway. big whoop.
    The difference there is that the team wanted to keep Jack and they didn't see any offer they wanted for him. They clearly are trying to move Bonner now. They can always let him walk next season; once they amnesty him, they can't get his money back.

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    The difference there is that the team wanted to keep Jack and they didn't see any offer they wanted for him. They clearly are trying to move Bonner now. They can always let him walk next season; once they amnesty him, they can't get his money back.
    not sure how its clear at all

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    not sure how its clear at all
    Won't believe it till I see it.. Bonner is untouchable.

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