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What are the Spurs doing, waiting out all potential suitors until they are the only ones left that can offer him anything?
I guess they could want to move Diaw instead, but it's the same thing. The Spurs are trying to move their expirings for players, which was not the case last off-season.
What are the Spurs doing, waiting out all potential suitors until they are the only ones left that can offer him anything?
Chris Quinn, CJ Miles and Kevin Jones all have completely unguaranteed contacts. The Cavs could dump all three of them and open up an additional $4.1 of cap room.
not sure they'd dump CJ miles. Quinn and Jones could be let go of though. besides, aren't these contracts guaranteed by a certain date? any clue when that is?
If it meant getting AK, I wouldn't let CJ Miles stand in the way.
No guarantee date written into any of the contracts.
We need Milwaukee to fall in love with Gary Neal and either Bonner or Diaw. That way the Spurs could ship those two to Milwaukee and be able to take on AK's deal without having to send salary back to Minnesota.
At this point I'd even be willing to consider working a De Colo for that midget A-hole Barea swap into the mix if the extra $3 mil in payroll it would save Minny would help push a deal through.
AK47 will be a Spur... I guarantee it!
That's actually not stopping them from getting Martin. It is prospectively stopping them from using the MLE on Brewer. If they really piss off Flip, and costs him Brewer, I'm hoping he works a deal for AK to spite OKC.
Thought I read somewhere that Minny & Denver had already worked out an S&T for Brewer. Could be wrong though...
But if they do that, they completely will lose their Room and MLE just to sign AK 47. Which means that you have a bunch of rookies and 2nd year players your are depending on to fill your bench and starting positions. And you will only have 9 players under contract so you only have the league minimum to fill out the remainder of your roster. The fact they want to resign Gibson, who isn't playing for the Minimum, I hardly doubt the Cavs gut their bench and throw their Room and MLE for ak47 who hasn't expressed any interest in signing with the Cavs at this point. Plus it will completely take them out of the race of possibly getting Lebron back next year.
It seems obvious now that the Spurs were his #1 choice from the start. Looking how things are boiling down at this point, it looks like AK will be a Spurs this year, one way or another.
You never know given what they could get next season in Free Agency.. A lot of there contracts are expendable next season and most of the team was made up of young players to begin with.
still nothing official announced? we live to fight another day
If the FO is smart they would amnesty Bonner.
The only way Minny can get Martin for what they offered and Brewer for what he wants is to S&T for Martin and then use the full MLE for Brewer. If they sign Martin with cap space, they lose the MLE, and only get the "room" exception, which is about half the MLE.
How so?
If the Spurs can't orchestrate a S&T, I think they'd need Bonner to stay on the roster to keep the Spurs over the cap. Moving De Colo would give the Spurs almost all of the MLE, from what I understand. We are about $60.5 or so (depending on how much Beli's deal is actually worth) moving De Colo would move us down to by $1.45 to nearly $59 million (less than half a million over the cap, possibly less than and in MLE territory)
I think this is a more than fair trade. Hopefully no 1st rounders but getting Barea or Ridinour +AK47 would be a nice haul. It also would seem to seal Neal's fate.
Amnestying Bonner still doesn't clear enough capspace to offer AK the $8 mil he's looking for.
Minny was allegedly going to salary dump Ridnour off to Milwaukee as part of the deal, so if they did that they got Brewer without having to touch their MLE or significantly impacting their ability to go under the cap. Whether the deal officially went through or not, I don't know.
who would we trade away for this to happen?
No he won't, glad you can guarantee it. I still am shocked this thread is up this far and still going when it said talks were off, what else do you guys need to hear? Move on.
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
That AK has been renounced, the deal for Brewer and Martin has been made without the Spurs, or that the Spurs indeed used their MLE between Beli and Pendergraph, none of these things we know for sure yet
Like that the Spurs were pursuing a deal, and not leaving it to chance. That they weren't able to get it done... not sure if it sucks or is a blessing in disguise.
Honestly don't know what AK's value is to teams that could give him the money he wants, or if they even exist amongst teams that aren't viable contenders - if he doesn't put you over the top or get you to the next level, what's the use in paying him 8M+ per?
Guess he could always go back overseas, definitely a possibility. But if he wants to stay, and all he's really got for offers are MLE-type deals... gotta think the Spurs would be his top choice.
The International flavor, the system, he and Tony have had a pretty good relationship since they were drafted.
Not countin on anything, but I ain't closin the book on AK either.
like most people have pointed out, the fact that none of these teams have officially signed their FAs is telling and points at the fact they're working every possible avenue
By my numbers that would give the spurs...
52.1 if they move Mills
51.8 if they move De Colo
meaning they'd have about $6.5-$6.8 in cap space to sign AK47 outright. Better than the 5.2 MLE and could offer a 2 year $14 million dollar deal keeping us flexible for the off season of 2015 when the big 3 + Green, Pendergraph, Beli etc come off the books. Moving De Colo shouldn't be that hard 1 year deal worth $1.45 and becomes an RFA next season. The Spurs could part with him for a protected 2nd rounder.
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