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    So no one finds it odd that at 9:30 central time, the Spurs and Wolves have not made any signings official?

    People think that's just a coincidence?

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    So no one finds it odd that at 9:30 central time, the Spurs and Wolves have not made any signings official?

    People think that's just a coincidence?
    it's the only reason this thread is still going

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    No he won't, glad you can guarantee it. I still am shocked this thread is up this far and still going when it said talks were off, what else do you guys need to hear? Move on.
    Cagney being a negative nancy per par

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    So what the fudge is going on? Why cant the Spurs sign AK47? Not enough cash? Doesn't wanna play here? I'm confused.

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    who would we trade away for this to happen?
    The dude I quoted had De Colo going to Minny and Bonner going to Denver (plus picks to both and cash to help pay some of Bonners $3.9 million dollar deal) We'd take back AK47 and either Ridniour or Barea to help Minny out. Neal would be gone, likely.

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    it's the only reason this thread is still going
    This thread will hit 50 pages by the time we find anything out.

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    Spurs can easily trade for Marco and Pendegraph w/o taking any salary back since their contracts are so small. They can give the Bulls their 2nd round pick and they can give Lorbek rights back to Indy to sign both of these players outright w/o using the MLE. They can turn around and use the MLE to sign Kirlenko to Diaw's deal last year. Kirilenko opts out next year and the Spurs extend him for 3 more years, with a 20% raise and 5% increases in year 2 and 3.

    Spurs still can get Ellis as a backup PG/Small Ball SG by trading combination of Neal, Bonner, Cojo/De Colo and picks in a 3 way deal with Atlanta and the Bucks. But I actually like the idea someone mentioned if the Spurs got JJ Barea from the T Wolves, which would negate the need to get someone like Ellis.

    Obviously there is a reason the T'Wolves, Spurs, Bucks and Atlanta haven't officially signed anyone at this point.

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    The dude I quoted had De Colo going to Minny and Bonner going to Denver (plus picks to both and cash to help pay some of Bonners $3.9 million dollar deal) We'd take back AK47 and either Ridniour or Barea to help Minny out. Neal would be gone, likely.
    Barea would've been nice. Does he still play at his 2011 Mavs level?

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    So what the fudge is going on? Why cant the Spurs sign AK47? Not enough cash? Doesn't wanna play here? I'm confused.
    He supposedly wants to play for a contender. It doesn't look like we have enough room under the cap to sign him outright and we need the sign and trade with the wolves to make it happen.

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    http://www.poundingtherock.com/2013/...drei-kirilenko

    Kirilenko could still be within the Spurs' grasp

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    Bobcat with the goods, thanks homie.

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    So what the fudge is going on? Why cant the Spurs sign AK47? Not enough cash? Doesn't wanna play here? I'm confused.
    I think they first want to see if they can get AK in a S&T so they can give him a longer deal upfront and also move some players off the roster, and they will have the MLE to sign Marco and Jeff as well. Otherwise, they will have to sign AK with the full MLE and S&T for Marco and Pendergraph, and with Bulls over the Tax and Indy teetering on it, it won't be able to send any players out.

    At the point, it starting to look that there is no team that can offer more than the MLE to Kirilenko at this point, which put the Spurs at the prime position to sign him straight up.

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    thats just an opinion article that somebody like you or me could have written. it's not an actual story.

    what makes me feel a bit better is that neither team made any statement or made any of their signings official. what could be holding them back?

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    So what the fudge is going on? Why cant the Spurs sign AK47? Not enough cash? Doesn't wanna play here? I'm confused.
    We can but the S&T is alot easier (it should be but Minny wants both Brewer and Kevin Martin). We can sign him outright but its much more work

    -Amnesty Bonners' $3.9 million dollar deal

    -Move De Colo's $1.45 million dollar deal (easy, IMO)

    -Restructure the Offers to Pendergraph (He was slated to make $2 million but would need to come down a bit to $1.5 ish)

    -Move Beli into the Room exception (2.5 million this season and next season, depending on the reports that may aready be very close to his offer from the Spurs)

    The Spurs would have about $6.1 to offer AK47 (more or less).


    Or

    Amnesty Bonner
    and the Spurs would have $57.6 million about $1 million under the cap.

    I think the Spurs could change (more money than originally thought)there offers to Beli, Pendergraph, (more likely Manu/ Splitter) dividing $1 million up and putting them just over the cap to allow them to use the MLE of $5.2


    The Spurs have to be go getter and AK47 has to agree to the cash of course.

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    Damn, thanks for the replies. Cleared alot of up.

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    He supposedly wants to play for a contender. It doesn't look like we have enough room under the cap to sign him outright and we need the sign and trade with the wolves to make it happen.
    We can it is just a bit more difficult go down to the end of the page to see my other comment.

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    Barea would've been nice. Does he still play at his 2011 Mavs level?
    I honesty don't watch a ton of Minny ball I live in Virginia (I know, of all places) Can Anyone give this man an answer???

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    thats just an opinion article that somebody like you or me could have written. it's not an actual story.

    what makes me feel a bit better is that neither team made any statement or made any of their signings official. what could be holding them back?
    Obviously it's an opinion piece - with no definitive answers one way or the other. In fact, my first thought when I saw it was "Either someone at PTR frequents SpursTalk or one of our members here is an author for PTR."

    I just thought I'd add it in the thread, because basically all we are doing is speculating as well.

    BTW, I like it that none of the potential teams involved have issued formal statements too.

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    I honesty don't watch a ton of Minny ball I live in Virginia (I know, of all places) Can Anyone give this man an answer???
    From what I've seen out of him, he has come down a couple of notches...and is still really short.

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    This movie requires FO to get rid of Bonner and Jo Co. It won't happen. My guess is they were trying to shove the Bonner and NDC combo at them.

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    Cagney being a negative nancy per par
    So reality is being negative now? I guess I will just be delusional and make up trades in here in my head and post them on how we can get him! I am over the fact he will not be here, time to move forward and see what they can get.

    BTW did you read the thread le? Does that sound positive to you?

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    Yeah, I heard the transactions were final, Kirilenko was renounced, and signed with Cleveland. I heard that all these transactions were formally announced and the players including our own free agent signings were announced at a press conference today.

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    lol..wut?

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    So reality is being negative now? I guess I will just be delusional and make up trades in here in my head and post them on how we can get him! I am over the fact he will not be here, time to move forward and see what they can get.

    BTW did you read the thread le? Does that sound positive to you?
    Yeah, I heard the transactions were final, Kirilenko was renounced, and signed with Cleveland. I heard that all these transactions were formally announced and the players including our own free agent signings were announced at a press conference today.

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    Yeah, I heard the transactions were final, Kirilenko was renounced, and signed with Cleveland. I heard that all these transactions were formally announced and the players including our own free agent signings were announced at a press conference today.
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