Yahoo: Spurs' talks for Andrei Kirilenko end without deal

[coyotes_geek]

...and don't forget state income tax factor. Believe Ohio has a state income tax. Add that in and that helps the Spurs somewhat. I'm more worried about Dallas/Cuban. Whether it makes sense for AK to be on that team or not, Cuban usually has a way of ticking we Spurs fans off.

The mavs have bigger problems to worry about right now. Literally, and figuratively. They've already blown most of their cap space on Calderon, Ellington & Harris and they still need a center. Besides, they've still got Shaun Marion. There's no reason for them to be interested in AK.

[Leetonidas]

Most (ie. Bruno, etc.) are thinking that maybe the Spurs offered these guys two possible scenerios, MLE or room exception/minimum, to be determined after AK is signed. Don't know if they can do that or not, but why not, and would that not explain why it is taking them so long to announce their signings? They have to wait out all the other teams offers until the well drys up and AK is left with the choice to sign what the Spurs have left or look some where else, some other league, or sit out a year.

I'm wondering though, I thought the Spurs could only use the MLE if they were over the cap, and with re-signing Manu and Tiago, I thought they were still slightly under it, so how could they split the MLE between two players if it wasn't available to them? Maybe I'm missing something

[ace3g]

I mentioned it a while back but AK should pick the Spurs if he wants to play his former team CSKA Moscow

http://www.nba.com/2013/news/06/24/e...ves/index.html

[ace3g]

Expected, but...

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
In sign-and-trade of Kevin Martin to Minnesota, OKC will send cash to Wolves as part of deal to create $7M trade exception, sources tell Y!

[Leetonidas]

[cd98]

Wonder who the Thunder might be trying to get.

[bluebellmaniac]

I'm wondering though, I thought the Spurs could only use the MLE if they were over the cap, and with re-signing Manu and Tiago, I thought they were still slightly under it, so how could they split the MLE between two players if it wasn't available to them? Maybe I'm missing something

From my reading of the CBA FAQ, when determining the team's total salary (to see how you can sign a player, but not in a S&T), you add up the valid contracts, cap holds, the MLE AND the bi-Annual exception. If the total is over the salary cap, then they can only use the MLE or the mMLE or the bi-Annual exception. All of those exceptions kick in the hard cap at Luxury Tax + $4M. For a S&T, you do not include the cap holds in the calculation. It gets complicated...

[Budkin]

So the door is officially closed?

[poop]

BONNER

[ducks]

you really think it is booner fault?

[Carnage&Mayhem]

you really think it is booner fault?

its always bonner's fault

[xmas1997]

Expected, but...

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
In sign-and-trade of Kevin Martin to Minnesota, OKC will send cash to Wolves as part of deal to create $7M trade exception, sources tell Y!

No mention of AK. What are they doing then, just letting him hang out there?

[CaptainLate]

A billionaire who wants in will get in...and a few million here or there is peanuts to the haves. You must be a have not hoping against hope that your reality (i.e., the Spurs) will forever be around. Get a life, son. But, then, one less starry-eyed sheeple won't make a difference. So go ahead, keep your priorities screwed. Now, back to real life.

[cd98]

Time to enter the Luke Babbitt sweepstakes.

[xmas1997]

A billionaire who wants in will get in...and a few million here or there is peanuts to the haves. You must be a have not hoping against hope that your reality (i.e., the Spurs) will forever be around. Get a life, son. But, then, one less starry-eyed sheeple won't make a difference. So go ahead, keep your priorities screwed. Now, back to real life.

Wrong thread!!!
How does this pertain to AK47???

[coyotes_geek]

So the door is officially closed?

Looks that way. Unless there was a third team involved in that S&T deal that Minnesota dumped off some salary on, there's no way they would have been able to add Martin's $7 mil salary without renouncing AK's rights to clear the cap space.

It was fun while it lasted......

[xmas1997]

So then what happens to Kirilenko now? Is he a player without a team, or what?

[Budkin]

Looks that way. Unless there was a third team involved in that S&T deal that Minnesota dumped off some salary on, there's no way they would have been able to add Martin's $7 mil salary without renouncing AK's rights to clear the cap space.

It was fun while it lasted......

So he's a free agent now and we couldn't have gotten him without a sign and trade because we blew our money on Pendergraph and Manu/Splitter correct?

[TXstbobcat]

And somehow this thread will still top 50 pages.

[TXstbobcat]

So then what happens to Kirilenko now? Is he a player without a team, or what?

If the wolves renounced him then he can go to the highest bidder. I guess then we find out if he really wants to play for a contender or just wants to chase the money.

[coyotes_geek]

So then what happens to Kirilenko now? Is he a player without a team, or what?

Someone will sign him, but his options just got a lot more limited.

[Chinook]

So the door is officially closed?

No. Literally, this is what the Spurs had to be hoping would happen. Now if the Wolves use their MLE on Brewer, they can get the players they want without having to renounce Kirilenko. That gives the Spurs time to work out a sign-and-trade. Had the team not used a trade exception, then they would have had to renounce AK, which WOULD have killed the deal.

[rjv]

And somehow this thread will still top 50 pages.

starting to rival a god exists/does not exist or sexuality-subject-matter type thread

[xmas1997]

Someone will sign him, but his options just got a lot more limited.

The question now is: how much do the Spurs have left to spend?

[benefactor]

No. Literally, this is what the Spurs had to be hoping would happen. Now if the Wolves use their MLE on Brewer, they can get the players they want without having to renounce Kirilenko. That gives the Spurs time to work out a sign-and-trade. Had the team not used a trade exception, then they would have had to renounce AK, which WOULD have killed the deal.

Yup. If Flip stops being a and takes a pick and a TE for AK-47 the Spurs can hunt for another team to take on the contracts of players the need to drop to clear room. I can't see how it would be that difficult as the players the need to drop are cheap and on expiring deals.