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    belinelli already did his damage.
    Didn't have much to do with it, tbh.

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    Didn't have much to do with it, tbh.
    i know, i'm not stupid . I'm just bitter.

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    ...well I guess that's ok. Here's to Beli making you a believer. He will need to for the Spurs to have another shot.

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    ...well I guess that's ok. Here's to Beli making you a believer. He will need to for the Spurs to have another shot.
    i really don't understand the signing tbh, he's gary neal with less clutch shooting and inability to take the ball to the other court.. yes i know he made a shot against the nets

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    at the crying over under-the-table su ions.

    Guess what . . .

    That 3.1 million is more than the Spurs could offer him.

    He actually took the highest offer from a contender . . . he kept to what he said in interviews.

    The Spurs refusing to make cap room due to Bonner and Manu's contract, and Belinelli from the MLE made sure that the Spurs couldn't even match the 3.1. Pendergraph makes it worse.

    Maybe, just maybe, this wasn't the result of how the mean rich foreigner paying AK on the side making sure the poor little Spurs had no chance . . . but was in fact the Spurs doing a Jackie Butler on themselves and screwing up.

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    I'm not sure how many people keep up with world politics around here, but I never liked the idea of a Russian billionaire buying into an NBA team. It's about as rational as having a casino owner buy a team. Actually, that would be far more rational. Billionaires in Russia who don't support the regime get thrown in jail and have their empires handed to cronies of the regime. Journalists critical of the government have a high suicide rate by ejection from high rise windows. For AK's sake I hope he did go because of endorsement money... this smells way to much of 'an offer he can't refuse'...

    AK's phone: ring ring
    AK: o

    Prochorov: AK! It's Pro! I never hear from you anymore! Listen, we have a deal we think you'd like. We have a sign and trade with Minny for 4 yrs at $8M per. How does that sound?

    AK: Actually I really want to spend my last couple years with a contender. I pretty much have a done deal set up with SA.

    Prochorov: That's too bad. We'll be in touch.

    AK's phone: ring ring
    AK: o

    Prochorov: AK, good to hear your voice again. Listen I have a new offer, we'll offer you $3M for 2 yrs, the mMLE.

    AK: What are you crazy?

    Prochorov: Hang on.

    AK's Mom: Hi son! Mr Prochorov is such a nice man. Although I did tell him I don't like heights he's insisted we go sky diving... oh wait, he wants to speak with you.

    Prochorov: AK....

    AK: I'll take the $3M...

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    at the crying over under-the-table su ions.

    Guess what . . .

    That 3.1 million is more than the Spurs could offer him.

    He actually took the highest offer from a contender . . . he kept to what he said in interviews.

    The Spurs refusing to make cap room due to Bonner and Manu's contract, and Belinelli from the MLE made sure that the Spurs couldn't even match the 3.1. Pendergraph makes it worse.

    Maybe, just maybe, this wasn't the result of how the mean rich foreigner paying AK on the side making sure the poor little Spurs had no chance . . . but was in fact the Spurs doing a Jackie Butler on themselves and screwing up.
    Not true. First reports of the Spurs being interested in Kirilenko came out July 1st and Beli didn't get signed until the 4th. The Spurs could have...and most certainly would have...used the full MLE to get him. He simply wanted more money than that which is why a S&T was being attempted...which didn't work because Saunders refused to accomidate the Spurs or AK-47.

    You are just being intentionally stupid if you think there is not more to this than meets the eye. He's playing for the same owner he played for in Russia...who just happens to have money falling out of his ass. The Nets are good now and he has a former teammate there in Williams so it's easy for him to say he simply took less to play for a good team that has some familiarity. Make no mistake though, he's getting paid a of a lot more than 3 million.

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    Kirilenko would have been so great because he was able to give quality minutes both at the SF and PF spots.

    While having only one SF is an issue, I'm actually more concerned by Spurs situation at PF. Spurs have only 3 quality bigmen with Duncan, Splitter and Diaw. That's not enough and I don't like Bonner, Baynes or Pendergraph as rotation players for a contender.

    If Spurs are looking at trade opportunities, they should look more at PFs than SFs. Ginobili can play the backup SF minutes and Spurs can sign a player in the Gelabale mod at the min salary for depth purposes.

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    Not a big deal, Bonner is still here.

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    While having only one SF is an issue, I'm actually more concerned by Spurs situation at PF. Spurs have only 3 quality bigmen with Duncan, Splitter and Diaw. That's not enough and I don't like Bonner, Baynes or Pendergraph as rotation players for a contender.
    I would like to see Baynes or Pendergraph emerge, but what contenders have more than 3 quality bigs?

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    And Prochorov also has the advantage of effectively giving the Nets an instant fanbase with the scores of Russian immigrants living in Brighton Beach and Brooklyn -- even if he weren't the richest owner in the NBA, this makes great business sense for the Nets AND Kirilenko, who will, indeed, make tons of endorsement money stateside and abroad.
    Why AK would choose Brooklyn/Prochorov endoresment deals over coming to SA and getting to do Ancira commercials where he and Tiago get to mumble to each other in broken english is beyond me.

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    I would like to see Baynes or Pendergraph emerge, but what contenders have more than 3 quality bigs?
    Few and 3 quality bigs is enough if they are able to play heavy minutes. Duncan is aging and Diaw isn't that good so Spurs kinda need another quality bigman .

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    Kirilenko would have been so great because he was able to give quality minutes both at the SF and PF spots.

    While having only one SF is an issue, I'm actually more concerned by Spurs situation at PF. Spurs have only 3 quality bigmen with Duncan, Splitter and Diaw. That's not enough and I don't like Bonner, Baynes or Pendergraph as rotation players for a contender.

    If Spurs are looking at trade opportunities, they should look more at PFs than SFs. Ginobili can play the backup SF minutes and Spurs can sign a player in the Gelabale mod at the min salary for depth purposes.
    I think the Spurs think Pendergraph is a rotation player. I think they give him a shot before they try to acquire any other bigs. I remember when Pendergraph was a rookie and he was pretty good when he played the Spurs. Hopefully he is as good as Buford is trying to convince us he is.

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    Snatch.....Nice reference, well done

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    Not true. First reports of the Spurs being interested in Kirilenko came out July 1st and Beli didn't get signed until the 4th. The Spurs could have...and most certainly would have...used the full MLE to get him. He simply wanted more money than that which is why a S&T was being attempted...which didn't work because Saunders refused to accomidate the Spurs or AK-47.

    You are just being intentionally stupid if you think there is not more to this than meets the eye. He's playing for the same owner he played for in Russia...who just happens to have money falling out of his ass. The Nets are good now and he has a former teammate there in Williams so it's easy for him to say he simply took less to play for a good team that has some familiarity. Make no mistake though, he's getting paid a of a lot more than 3 million.
    Not true?

    He opted out expecting a multi-year deal with the Wolves. They told him to get lost. He and his agent had talks with the Spurs that got far enough that the Wolves were asked to do the sign and trade, because the money and years had already been made palatable for the Spurs and AK. The Wolves told him to get lost.

    Then after the Wolves renounce him, he takes the highest offer from a contender.

    PERIOD.

    If the Spurs had wanted to make him a capspace offer similar to what they had already been willing to pay in trade, they would have cleared space. But they didn't.

    If anything, the timeline went like this: July 1, AK wants double digits per year and multi-years from any team. Wolves laugh at him. Spurs decide he's not worth 10+ a year, decide they don't want to buyout/amnesty Bonner and like paying Manu sacrifice money, so they lock-up Belinelli after worrying over Neal. After it's clear that he's not getting 10+, AK lowers his asking price to the high single digits. Spurs realize they had a chance after all, but committing to Beli and Pendergraph screwed their pooch, while they're too cheap to amnesty Bonner. They and AK agree to the framework of a deal around 8 per year and try to get the Wolves to take back salary.

    The Wolves tell everyone to get lost.

    Then the Spurs are stuck, can't offer , and every other contender has used their MLE. AK is left with taking a taxpayer MLE.

    Forgetting Pendergraph:

    After Belinelli, the Spurs only had 2.4 million left in the MLE.

    Using maths, tell me which is higher: 3.1 or 2.4?

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    Proving your case by making up a bunch of in order to get your desired point across...man you sure showed me.

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    Not a big deal, Bonner is still here.
    YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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