Intelligent design isn't science

[Phenomanul]

oh, most assuredly you do, and that is not condesending at all, which is why the Guru did not laugh his ass off when he read that quote

People are given exams throughout the course of elementary, middle , highschool, and college... it is an educational necessity.... retaining facts was one of the reasons I happened to do well... other people are natural born geniuses that don't have to study as hard... Unfortunately, like most, I did have to study hard....

Stating what I said , therefore, was in no way condescending... Considering I was explaining the basis of the comparison... if you can't accept it... tough.

[RandomGuy]

[evolution]'s as much science as string theory.

Yes, actually it is.

Both evolution and string theory are based on logical assumptions, testible, verifiable data, and can be used to make predictions that can then be tested to see if the theory works or not.

Intelligent design... doesn't.

[LnGrrrR]

People are given exams throughout the course of elementary, middle , highschool, and college... it is an educational necessity.... retaining facts was one of the reasons I happened to do well... other people are natural born geniuses that don't have to study as hard... Unfortunately, like most, I did have to study hard....

Retaining facts =/= understanding facts =/= understanding underlying mechanisms

And I love the nonchalant way in which Phenomanul tries to downplay his smarts while still making sure to talk about them alot.

"Look guys, I mean, I just happen to be a great lover. It happens! Some people are born with mouse s; I have a horse . I still have to thrust just like the rest of you; it's just I please women much more when I do so."

[Blake]

And I love the nonchalant way in which Phenomanul tries to downplay his smarts while still making sure to talk about them alot.

"Look guys, I mean, I just happen to be a great lover. It happens! Some people are born with mouse s; I have a horse . I still have to thrust just like the rest of you; it's just I please women much more when I do so."

[boutons_deux]

Phenom is so smart he has no self-reflexion.

All that hard studying, all those facts retained, all that haughtiness, all that self-congratulatory preening, and he still "believes" he can prove Creationism, and maybe even New Earth Creationism, is scientific and The Real Truth, and hard-core Darwinian evolution and the 10s of 1000s of scientists who have worked 100+ years hacking away at it are bull .

[RandomGuy]

Really? Neither Darwin or Plato explain the existence of DNA sequencing or of the nanotechnology contained in biological cell structure.

And, if evolution nor philosophy can explain it, maybe science can. But, first, you have to allow the hypothesis to be explored. And, barring it from education is, in effect, stifling that exploration.

The Intelligent Design theory is based on the scientific principles that information is the result of intelligence and that irreducably complex machines can only result from information born of intelligence.

What's wrong with teaching and exploring that theory in schools?

Because "irreducible complexity" has been debunked as an idea by the discoveries of modern genetics.

That is what science does, Yoni.

It looks to see what reality can objectively tell us.

[baseline bum]

ID is creationism based on the book of Genesis. It's the reason teaching of ID was struck down in the supreme court. The textbook that invented the idea of intelligent design was shown to originally be a book of creationism with little more change than crossing out the word "creationism" and replacing it with "intelligent design" everywhere in the text (shown from earlier versions of it). Intelligent design is religion and nothing more.

[DarkReign]

@ LnGr

mouse ...

[MannyIsGod]