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    What did I lose exactly?
    Nothin'. Forget it. You're never wrong. I just forgot for a moment.

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    hmm...interstingly enough, lots of hip hop glorifies niggs offing each other with no remorse and not taking from no one. You can start by not supporting that.
    same can be said for violent films and television shows. its bigger than artistic expression, doggie.

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    so now you can instigate a confrontation..get your ass kicked and then kill the guy kicking your ass..
    Go try it and let us know how it turns out.

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    Im confused. Does this fall under artistic expression, or am I supposed to take this song literally?

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    Someone here give me hard evidence that this was a racist act. I'm sick and tired of people claiming they "know" Zimmerman was a racist who just wanted to profile a black kid.

    First off, he NEVER used the words " " or "coon". If he did, it certainly would've been brought up by the prosecutor.

    Secondly, him saying "they always get away" is not racist. "They" could just be referring to teenage punks who are (presumedly) committing a crime. You have no proof that Zimmerman was specifically referring to black people and instead you're just assuming such because you feel that blacks have a "target on their back". Are their racist people out there? Of course. Does that mean every time someone is su ious of a black person that it's an act of racism and profiling? No. I'm white and I've been accused of looking su ious before. I don't know why people are acting like they KNOW Zimmerman wouldn't have found Martin to be su ious if he were white/Mexican/Asian/etc

    Third, Zimmerman isn't white. He's Mexican. If this country is really as racist as you all make it out to be, wouldn't they want to send the Mexican guy to jail? Do you think Mexicans are viewed as better than black people? If so, what makes you think that? I'm curious about your thought process here.

    Y'all are seriously asking for someone to be sent to jail for 25 years to life based off assumptions, and it's absurd. Let's go through what we KNOW (AKA what should be used in a trial to convict someone):

    1) Zimmerman saw Martin, and for a reason unbeknownst to us, found him su ious looking.

    2) Zimmerman reported the su ion, and instead of listening to the responder, he continued to follow him. While this was a bad decision, it is not illegal to do so.

    3) At some point, Zimmerman and Martin got into a physical altercation. We do not know for sure who started the physical aspect of it. If you have proof that Zimmerman/Martin threw a first punch or tackled the other, please show me.

    4) During the physical altercation, Martin ended up on top of Zimmerman and was punching him/banging his head against the concrete. How do we know this? Forensics determined this scenario to be consistent with the wounds Zimmerman had and the bullet wound that Trayvon Martin had. Experts testified to this.

    5) Zimmerman claims he feared for his life and shot Martin out of self-defense.

    So where in that scenario does this turn into an undeniable 2nd degree murder? How can you say that there is NO reasonable doubt, at all, that Zimmerman started the physical confrontation or wasn't shooting out of self-defense? In America it isn't "guilty until proven innocent" (despite the media treating it as such). The defendant is assumed to be innocent until the prosecutor can PROVE WITHOUT ANY REASONABLE DOUBT that he's guilty.

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    Im confused. Does this fall under artistic expression, or am I supposed to take this song literally?
    huh? its not a song. i already responded to your post about hip hop.

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    be sure to watch 'Fruitvale Station' the story of Oscar Grant on July 26th.



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    The tea baggers ed up by preemptively complaining about riots that hadn't happened yet which made the black community determined to show they can peacefully protest and gave them enough time to organize the movement. If they just stayed quiet on the issue there might have been some riots.
    Then they mind-funked the people to get the desired outcome

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    huh? its not a song. i already responded to your post about hip hop.
    I didnt click the YouTube link. I clicked the link that said "lyrics".

    At what point do you stop blaming other all the time for your issues?

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    same can be said for violent films and television shows. its bigger than artistic expression, doggie.
    except after the movie is done, the actors drop the "thug life" act and go back to being normal humans. They don't get millions of dollars, glorify the killing of their own kind and continually put themselves in that life even after their job is done.

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    The Trills and Creepns of the world ate the media created racist up.




    It all started with the anchor of a major television network (Al Sharpton) inserting himself in the story to spread division and hate; it continued straight through to the closing days of the trial when another major news network, desperate to keep a fabricated racial narrative alive, propagated the portrayal of Zimmerman as part of a racial group that doesn't exist -- the "white Hispanic."
    In-between, there has been an astonishing amount of malicious fraud and lies, all in an effort to serve a president, stir racial hatred, and influence the justice system.

    February 26, 2012 - George Zimmerman Shoots and Kills Trayvon Martin
    Zimmerman claims self-defense. After an investigation, the police agree and decide not to press charges.

    March 8, 2012 - The AP Falsely Describes Zimmerman as "White"
    The story of the grieving parents of Trayvon Martin demanding Zimmerman be arrested first achieves national attention on March 8 when CBS This Morning runs a report.
    Later that same day, the Associated Press throws the first log on the racial fire by inaccurately describing Zimmerman as white.

    March 13, 2012 - NBC's Al Sharpton Uses MSNBC Platform to Stoke Phony Racial Narrative
    Breitbart editor-in-chief Joel Pollak:
    Sharpton devoted a portion of his program on MSNBC, PoliticsNation, to the Trayvon Martin case. He interviewed Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump, who reiterated the accusation that Zimmerman was “white”: “We think Trayvon Martin didn’t know who the heck this white man was who approached him before he got killed.”
    Earlier that same day, Sharpton's National Action Network released a statement calling for...
    ...a “complete and thorough investigation” into Martin’s death. He added: “[W]e are told that racial language was used when the young man reported his su ions to police[.]”
    The story about Zimmerman's use of racial language was false.

    March 13, 2012 - ABC News Reporter Claims Trayvon Shot Because "He Was Black"
    About ten days before Al Sharpton and President Obama would launch the Zimmerman story into the stratosphere, Matt Gutman, an ABC News correspondent based in Miami, Florida, was already (and without a shred of evidence) laying the track for a racial narrative.
    Gutman covered the case for the network, and his Twitter feed at the time was full of falsehoods, innuendo, and irresponsible speculation. In one tweet, Gutman came right out and claimed Trayvon was shot "bc [because] he was black."
    Gutman would also recklessly accuse Zimmerman of "stalking" and shooting down Trayvon.

    March 19, 2012 - CBS News Falsely Claims Zimmerman Is White
    A small detail that the Obama administration and the media apparently missed was that the white versus black racial narrative they were preparing to invest so much into was missing just one thing: a white person.
    Proof of this is that CBS News falsely claimed Zimmerman was white about a week before the story exploded.
    In their venomous zeal, the media and Democrats likely assumed that someone with the last name Zimmerman had to be white. But they were wrong, as Zimmerman is Hispanic.
    Never ones to back off a good narrative, rather than use this revelation to tamp down tensions or correct their reporting, the media simply made up out of whole cloth a new racial category: the "white Hispanic."

    March 22, 2012 - Zimmerman Described as a "White Hispanic" by The New York Times
    Just in the nick of time, before the story was engineered to explode the very next day with the Sharpton rally, The New York Times put its stamp of approval on the term "white Hispanic."

    March 21, 2012 - CNN Falsely Accuses Zimmerman of Saying "F**king Coon"
    Knowing full well the phony racial storm brewing around the Zimmerman case was about to have gasoline thrown on it the next day, CNN went to extraordinary lengths to claim Zimmerman had uttered the racial slur "coon" when he had not.
    This has to be watched to be believed.
    CNN wouldn't officially retract their defamation until April 5th, long after it was too late.

    March 22, 2012 - NBC's Al Sharpton Goes to Florida
    Though the police had investigated the shooting and saw no reason to charge George Zimmerman, in March of 2012, President Obama's reelection chances looked dim. He would need the crucial swing state of Florida to win another four years, and nothing brings out the Democrat vote like a good old racial bonfire.
    With the help of thousands of dollars from Obama's Justice Department, it was then that Rev. Al Sharpton (anchor of MSNBC's Politics Nation) held his incendiary rally:
    At the protest, Sharpton was flanked by Martin's parents. "Trayvon could have been any one of our sons," he said. "Trayvon could have been any one of us."
    He continued:
    "We are tired of going to jail for nothing and others going home for something. Zimmerman should have been arrested that night ... you cannot defend yourself against a pack of Skittles and iced tea. Don't talk to us like we're stupid! Don't talk to us like we're ignorant! We love our children like you love yours. Lock him up!"
    Sharpton said that he would stay on the case.
    "We cannot allow a legal precedent to be established in this city that tells us it is legal for a man to kill us, tell any story he wants, and walks out with the murder weapon," he said.

    March 23, 2012 - President Obama Repeats Sharpton's Talking Point
    The day after Sharpton held his rally and said, "Trayvon could have been any one of our sons," President Obama made huge news when he stepped before the cameras, demanded action in the Zimmerman case, and famously said, "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon."
    In just two days, a network news anchor and an American president had blasted the Zimmerman case into the nation's top story and did so based on a racial narrative without a shred of evidence to support it. Almost every other major news outlet would now commit every journalistic sin imaginable to fabricate evidence.

    March 24, 2012 - Reuters Describes Zimmerman as a "White Hispanic"
    To keep the white versus black narrative alive, Reuters jumps on the ridiculous "white Hispanic" bandwagon.
    Many others would follow.

    March 27, 2012 - NBC News Edits 911 Audio to Make Zimmerman Look Racist
    On the storied Today Show, NBC News told America Zimmerman said this on the 911 call:
    Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.
    When the truth is that the unedited audio actually went like this:
    Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.
    Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
    Zimmerman: He looks black.
    After the fraudulent editing was discovered by the New Media (first by Breitbart News), former NBC News president Steve Capus would claim that the edit was "a mistake and not a deliberate act to misrepresent the phone call."
    Eventually, several NBC producers would be fired (without being named), and Zimmerman would file a lawsuit against NBC; it remains unresolved.

    March 28, 2012 - ABC News Falsely Claims Zimmerman Wasn't Injured Night of Shooting
    The day after NBC News released its falsified 911 bombs , ABC News released a phony, hyped-up story of its own. Using grainy surveillance video of Zimmerman at the police station on the night of the shooting, ABC News claimed, "A police surveillance video taken the night that Trayvon Martin was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman."
    Obviously, if true, this would go a long way towards proving Zimmerman was not in fear of his life the night of the shooting and had lied about being beaten up.
    The only problem is that the ABC News story was not true -- not even close. The network didn't bother to enhance the video before breaking the news. Had they, Zimmerman's bloody head would have been quite apparent.
    It would take four days for ABC to retract its falsehood.

    March 28, 2012 - Boston Globe Falsely Describes Zimmerman as White
    By late March it was widely known that George Zimmerman was Hispanic. This did not stop the Boston Globe from using its pages to describe him as "a white neighborhood watch captain."
    This error has never been corrected.

    March 29, 2012 - NBC's Chris Matthews Contradicts Guest to Claim Zimmerman Not Injured
    By the next day, ABC's false story about Zimmerman not being injured had already gone viral. However, some were already doing the job ABC apparently didn't want to do: enhancing the video. A guest on MSNBC's Hardball told the show's host, Chris Matthews, that his enhancement did show bruises on the back of Zimmerman's head. MSNBC even broadcast the enhancement, which clearly showed cuts and bruising.
    Regardless, during the same show, Matthews stridently claimed:
    George Zimmerman says he shot Trayvon Martin after Trayvon broke his nose and repeatedly slammed the back of his head into a concrete sidewalk, but newly released video tape of Zimmerman arriving at the police station--we're looking at it there--appears to show no evidence of a broken nose or obvious wounds to the back of Zimmerman's head.

    Late March, 2012 - Zimmerman's "Black Friend" Vilified by Media
    Even though Zimmerman is Hispanic and there was no evidence of any racial motivation behind his actions, the media's racial-hysteria was, at this point, in full bloom. To try and tamp things down, Joe Oliver, a black reporter who had worked with CNN and an Orlando television station, started doing the national media interview rounds to speak on behalf of his friend, George Zimmerman.
    The counterattack in the media (CNN, New York Times, and MSNBC, among others) was exceptionally vicious, personal, and effective.
    Oliver went away.

    April 1, 2012 - The New York Times Maliciously Edits Zimmerman's 911 Call
    Although the NBC News malicious edit of Zimmerman's 911 call broadcast on the Today Show had already been loudly and publicly debunked, days later the New York Times did the same thing on its front page.
    By rearranging the words of the call, the Times falsely made it look as though Zimmerman had profiled Trayvon as black:
    Here is the 911 call transcript:
    ZIMMERMAN: This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.
    911 DISPATCHER: Okay. And this guy, is he white, black, or Hispanic?
    ZIMMERMAN: He looks black.
    And here is what the Times reported:
    “Hey, we’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood,” Mr. Zimmerman said to start the conversation with the dispatcher. “And there’s a real su ious guy.”
    This guy seemed to be up to no good; like he was on drugs or something; in a gray hoodie. Asked to describe him further, he said, “He looks black.”
    The print edition of the story was even worse than the online edition.

    April 9, 2012 - PBS Anchor Gwen Ifill Describes Zimmerman as "White"
    Desperate to keep a non-existent racial narrative alive, during a broadcast of the PBS Newshour Gwen Ifill falsely stated:
    Martin, who was black, was on his way to a convenience store in a mostly white gated community when George Zimmerman, who is white, shot and killed him after a disputed altercation.
    Note Ifill's reporting of Zimmerman's gated community. The condos in Zimmerman's neighborhood sell for about $120,000.

    April 11, 2012 - George Zimmerman Is Arrested, Charged with Second Degree Murder

    After the arrest, and as the trial date neared the following year, NBC would allow Al Sharpton to turn his primetime MSNBC show into a platform dedicated to convicting Zimmerman.
    CNN would continue to refer to Zimmerman as a "white Hispanic" and broadcast all of Zimmerman's personal information, including his social security number, address, and telephone number.

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    I didnt click the YouTube link. I clicked the link that said "lyrics".

    At what point do you stop blaming other all the time for your issues?
    huh????!!!!???? i live a good life, doggie. beautiful family, a brother playing professional basketball, everyone is college educated in my family. its the millions of blacks living in poverty that i have an issue with. the fact that the young latino and black brothers in that video are being harassed and profiled at 9 years old for nothing.

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    except after the movie is done, the actors drop the "thug life" act and go back to being normal humans. They don't get millions of dollars, glorify the killing of their own kind and continually put themselves in that life even after their job is done.
    intellectually dishonest post^^^^^^

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    i felt like i took a time machine back to the 1950's after reading the ruling and reading/watching all the non blacks reactions after the trial, very evil but not surprised. i expected it. but the hardest thing i had to do last night was answering my 11 and 13 year old brothers questions as to why the coward was not guilty. had to tell them that because they're black, they have a target on their backs from the moment they are born.



    anyways.....


    so were you this upset when OJ was free? You remember how he brutally killed 2 people in cold blood, premeditated with tons of evidence, yet he walked and lots of blacks celebrated. Did that case piss you off as well, any lessons for your nephews on dat one?

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    rosa parks wasn't the first black person to refuse to move to the back of the bus but it sparked a movement, it created a tipping point. hopefully this tragedy of a teen being forced into a situation beyond his level of maturity will have the same impact.

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    "i expected it. but the hardest thing i had to do last night was answering my 11 and 13 year old brothers questions as to why the coward was not guilty. had to tell them that because they're black, they have a target on their backs from the moment they are born."

    preaching hate, sup al sharpton

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    so were you this upset when OJ was free?
    fool i was in elementary school when that happened. as an adult, yes oj should have been locked the up but just like this case, there was no sufficient evidence to convict him. the justice system is flawed.

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    "i expected it. but the hardest thing i had to do last night was answering my 11 and 13 year old brothers questions as to why the coward was not guilty. had to tell them that because they're black, they have a target on their backs from the moment they are born."

    preaching hate, sup al sharpton
    preaching reality, scrote.

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    fool i was in elementary school when that happened. as an adult, yes oj should have been locked the up but just like this case, there was no sufficient evidence to convict him. the justice system is flawed.
    Intellectually dishonest post. Then where were all these Trayvon supporters before this? This isn't about they system. This is about having your mind made up then being upset you didn't get the blood you want. Your mentality of "we are a target" proves this.

    You saying "movies are the same as the rap songs" proves this as well. Unless you are saying those guys are all fake and just lie to sell records, they glorify the life style and rap about getting away with crimes all the time. Why are they mad now?

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    Intellectually dishonest post. Then where were all these Trayvon supporters before this? This isn't about they system. This is about having your mind made up then being upset you didn't get the blood you want. Your mentality of "we are a target" proves this.

    You saying "movies are the same as the rap songs" proves this as well. Unless you are saying those guys are all fake and just lie to sell records, they glorify the life style and rap about getting away with crimes all the time. Why are they mad now?
    dpg, the media took this story and made it national news, just like rosa parks. she wasn't the first person to refuse her seat and trayvon wasn't the first black male to be murdered but both caught media attention and one caused a movement. lets see if this one will do the same.

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    Not one word from trill. Hmmmm.
    i can post links, articles and youtube vids of blacks being murdered by police as well. matter of fact i already did and it was quieter than a mouse pissin' on cotton, so.....

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