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    I don't believe the Nuge speaks for most repubs, he is a total nutjob

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    I don't believe the Nuge speaks for most repubs, he is a total nutjob
    He's on the board of the NRA, he's a hero to gun fellators

    Seems like there's a whole bunch right wing extremists, nutjobs, assholes, jerks, outright freaks that DO represent and speak to Ms of Repugs

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    Rough Guide to Life in the United States of Zimmerman, the US of Z

    In the US of Z the law allows people to hunt each other.


    In the US of Z you can be a self-appointed volunteer vigilante, and you have permission to decide a person is up to no good based solely on the color of his skin, and maybe the time of day and your own bigotry.


    In the US of Z you may racial profile to your heart's content and the judge won't let it be used against you in court.


    In the US of Z, you don't have to feel remorse if you kill someone, even if that person did nothing wrong, even if you went out of your way to get to kill him. You can just believe it was God's plan.


    In the US of Z, there is confusion about whether Trayvon Martin is another Medgar Evers or Emmett Till. He might have grown up to be a Medgar Evers. He died an Emmett Till.


    In the US of Z, the acquittal of someone who stalked and killed a young black man comes as no surprise. But it's still surprising that Zimmerman's defense attorney asserted, in all apparent seriousness, that in the same cir stances, Zimmerman would not even have been charged if he was black.


    In the US of Z, it is no surprise for a black man to go uncharged when he does not survive his arrest. That's not what the defense attorney meant, because in the US of Z, it's the killer Zimmerman who is somehow the victim.


    In this US of Z, there are white people who believe that black people don't care about dead black boys except when whites kill them.


    Is It Ever Fair to Arrest a Judge's Son?


    In this US of Z, people still think it's unfair that Zimmerman was even arrested 44 days after the killing. They don't believe that George Zimmerman's father, Robert Zimmerman, a retired Virginia Supreme Court magistrate, reportedly talked the police out of arresting George the night he killed Trayvon.

    In the US of Z, the Zimmerman verdict no doubt gives some hope to Michael David Dunn, 45, a Florida white man who killed an unarmed black teenager in the back seat of a car for having the music too loud, shooting him at least eight times. Dunn has pleaded not guilty, saying he felt threatened and acted in self defense, and besides the law gives him the right to stand his ground.

    http://www.alternet.org/civil-libert...ates-zimmerman


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    Then why was creepn incredibly annoyed by her?
    Because I knew the jurors weren't going to connect with the only witness that was there at the moment of the confrontation.

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    Because I knew the jurors weren't going to connect with the only witness that was there at the moment of the confrontation.
    Maybe they did. She seemed to confirm that Martin initiated the verbal confrontation.

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    Nugent is ignorant and its no surprise his take on African amerikkkans is damn near identical to some views in this thread. Its almost like the dunb redneck was typing behind some of these screen names. He lives in a bubble and has zero contact with anyone outside of his race on a personal level and he thinks he has all the answers. Ignorance and en lement are horrible qualities to have.


    Anyways, isn't he an illegal hunter?

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    He's on the board of the NRA, he's a hero to gun fellators

    Seems like there's a whole bunch right wing extremists, nutjobs, assholes, jerks, outright freaks that DO represent and speak to Ms of Repugs
    Here's hoping you don't speak for the Left.

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    Nugent is ignorant and its no surprise his take on African amerikkkans is damn near identical to some views in this thread. Its almost like the dunb redneck was typing behind some of these screen names. He lives in a bubble and has zero contact with anyone outside of his race on a personal level and he thinks he has all the answers. Ignorance and en lement are horrible qualities to have.


    Anyways, isn't he an illegal hunter?
    Dude is damaged. Too much booze. He's always been a little damaged tho.

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    Dude is damaged. Too much booze. He's always been a little damaged tho.
    I got the crazy vibe when I saw him on an episode of mtv cribs. He looked coked up the entire time.

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    Boobie, honor your bet. Creepn is a cool dude and doesn't deserve to be welshed on. Did you know the swastika was once a tantric symbol of peacefulness and goodness? It wasn't until the nazis decided to adopt it that it got its negative connotations.

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    I got the crazy vibe when I saw him on an episode of mtv cribs. He looked coked up the entire time.
    There's a reason he's called the Motor City Madman.

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    Boobie, honor your bet. Creepn is a cool dude and doesn't deserve to be welshed on. Did you know the swastika was once a tantric symbol of peacefulness and goodness? It wasn't until the nazis decided to adopt it that it got its negative connotations.


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    If you are punching someone and theyre screaming for help, get off.

    We all heard the tapes.

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    NUGENT: Zimmerman should sue Trayvon’s parents

    by Ted Nugent
    Posted: July 17, 2013 10:59 am

    The narrative being spun by any number of media pundits, race-baiters and various excuse-makers is that Mr. Zimmerman shot down an unarmed minor. Although he was found not guilty of second-degree murder or manslaughter, let’s follow the narrative of those who believe Mr. Zimmerman killed a minor. And they are right, he did. Trayvon Martin was a minor at the time of this death. The basis for Zimmerman’s lawsuit should be that minor Trayvon Martin viciously attacked him causing great bodily harm and threatening his life, which resulted in Mr. Zimmerman defending himself and shooting Martin.

    Trayvon Martin’s vicious attack on George Zimmerman and Martin’s tragic death have no doubt surely dragged Mr. Zimmerman through 18 months of untold emotional , pain, distress, anguish, fatigue, nightmares and financial ruin. Again, following the narrative of the pro-Trayvon media types and other race-baiters, if Trayvon Martin was a minor, then Trayvon Martin’s parents may be held liable for the emotional pain and suffering Mr. Zimmerman has been put through for the past 18 months, and surely for the rest of his life.

    Parents can be held responsible for the actions of their minor-age children until the children reach the age of majority (meaning adulthood), which is exactly why Mr. Zimmerman should explore filing a lawsuit against Martin’s parents. The age of majority in Florida is 18-years-old. Trayon Martin was 17-years-old when he attacked Mr. Zimmerman, which potentially means that Trayvon’s parents may possibly be held responsible for the stress, emotional pain and anguish their son caused George Zimmerman.

    http://rare.us/story/nugent-zimmerma...yvons-parents/

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    Actually that is an interesting legal theory. Might be a reasonable countersuit if the Martin's sue.

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    Actually that is an interesting legal theory. Might be a reasonable countersuit if the Martin's sue.
    I can see all the heads exploding around here if that happens.

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    I can see all the heads exploding around here if that happens.
    Zimmerman will be immune from a civil suit anyway.

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    NUGENT: Zimmerman should sue Trayvon’s parents

    by Ted Nugent
    Posted: July 17, 2013 10:59 am

    The narrative being spun by any number of media pundits, race-baiters and various excuse-makers is that Mr. Zimmerman shot down an unarmed minor. Although he was found not guilty of second-degree murder or manslaughter, let’s follow the narrative of those who believe Mr. Zimmerman killed a minor. And they are right, he did. Trayvon Martin was a minor at the time of this death. The basis for Zimmerman’s lawsuit should be that minor Trayvon Martin viciously attacked him causing great bodily harm and threatening his life, which resulted in Mr. Zimmerman defending himself and shooting Martin.

    Trayvon Martin’s vicious attack on George Zimmerman and Martin’s tragic death have no doubt surely dragged Mr. Zimmerman through 18 months of untold emotional , pain, distress, anguish, fatigue, nightmares and financial ruin. Again, following the narrative of the pro-Trayvon media types and other race-baiters, if Trayvon Martin was a minor, then Trayvon Martin’s parents may be held liable for the emotional pain and suffering Mr. Zimmerman has been put through for the past 18 months, and surely for the rest of his life.

    Parents can be held responsible for the actions of their minor-age children until the children reach the age of majority (meaning adulthood), which is exactly why Mr. Zimmerman should explore filing a lawsuit against Martin’s parents. The age of majority in Florida is 18-years-old. Trayon Martin was 17-years-old when he attacked Mr. Zimmerman, which potentially means that Trayvon’s parents may possibly be held responsible for the stress, emotional pain and anguish their son caused George Zimmerman.

    http://rare.us/story/nugent-zimmerma...yvons-parents/
    That'd be ed and I'm sure Zimmerman just wants to be left alone now, no way he would persue this. He'll get enough money in lawsuits against the media.

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    He'll get enough money for interviews. Just think of how hungry the evil liberal media is going to be for the first interview with him since the verdict.

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    Key Mistakes Sway Jury in Zimmerman Trial

    Jury prevented from considering race

    Jury prevented from considering first aggressor

    Officer permitted to make credibility judgment

    http://truth-out.org/news/item/17620...d-self-defense



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    Key Mistakes Sway Jury in Zimmerman Trial

    Jury prevented from considering race

    Jury prevented from considering first aggressor

    Officer permitted to make credibility judgment

    http://truth-out.org/news/item/17620...d-self-defense


    Are you don pouting yet?

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    Are you don pouting yet?
    Are you done rejoicing and gloating, yet?

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    As former Florida State Senator Dan Gelber has pointed out, pre-Jeb Bush, pre- Koch Brothers, and pre-ALEC Florida law would have required the following instructions to be read to a jury in a self-defense murder trial:

    "The defendant [George Zimmerman] cannot justify the use of force likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless he used every reasonable means within his power and consistent with his own safety to avoid the danger before resorting to that force. The fact that the defendant [George Zimmerman] was wrongfully attacked cannot justify his use of force likely to cause death or great bodily harm if by retreating he could have avoided the need to use that force."

    Note that according to these jury instructions, the defendant must do everything possible, including retreating, before attempting to use deadly force.


    When confronted with a threat in 2005 and before, whether it was a deadly threat or simply the threat of violence, or even when confronted with actual violence, like being punched in the face or knocked to the pavement, the legal obligation was to work yourself free and run.


    All that changed in Florida in 2006, when Florida's brand-spanking new and ALEC-promoted Stand Your Ground and Shoot First law came into effect.


    Since 2006, post-Jeb Bush, post-Koch Brothers, and post-NRA and ALEC, the Stand Your Ground and Shoot First concept has become fully integrated into Florida's law regarding self-defense and the use of deadly force.


    This is why the jury instructions for the Zimmerman jury included Stand Your Ground language, because that language is now part of Florida's laws about self-defense.


    Listen carefully to the difference between the "You Must Retreat" language in the pre-2006 jury instructions and the instructions used in the Zimmerman trial. Remember, before 2006 Florida law said that even if the other guy started the fight, you still had an obligation to run. The old law read as follows:


    "The fact that the defendant was wrongfully attacked cannot justify his use of force likely to cause death or great bodily harm if by retreating he could have avoided the need to use that force."

    By comparison, here are the Stand Your Ground instructions that actually were read to the Zimmerman jury:


    "The danger facing George Zimmerman need not have been actual; however, to justify the use of deadly force, the appearance of danger must have been so real that a reasonably cautious and prudent person under the same cir stances would have believed that the danger could be avoided only through the use of that force. Based upon appearances, George Zimmerman must have actually believed that the danger was real.

    "George Zimmerman... had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself ..."

    George Zimmerman didn't even have to have a threat of deadly force used against him. All he had to do was imagine that there was such a threat. And instead of running, he could stand his ground and shoot first to kill.

    http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/17...rds-of-justice



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