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    Not really. It's called real life.

    I'm guessing most of you have close to no life experience. Most of you are likely teenagers or early 20's so you have a pretty limited view of the importance of things that are more connected to the big picture. kobyz sounds like he's somewhere between 13-17yrs old and the types of reactions he is giving are to be expected. My daughter is 14 and is was recently told she could not date a boy who is several years older than her. She told me "her happiness is gone." Is that true? Of course not.
    It's a stretch to say someone who you don't really know has no life experience to put things into perspective.

    It's the same with this. I love the Spurs and spend a rather unhealthy amount of time following them...but I also understand it's just sports. I go to a job where people are trapped in their mind permanently and the only solution for them to live a halfway normal life is to give them medications that make them feel nothing. I work with homeless people who don't have anything. There is real life out there...and on the grand scale a game played by a bunch of rich athletes I've never met is pretty far down the priority totem pole.

    We were all upset...but it's been a month since the Finals. Move on.
    Like you I have a life outside these forums. Your entire post basically says: life and sports have to be separated because one is no doubt more important to which I agree. That said, just like. 4 and Manu's foul, you never forget. Game 6 is worse than those. It's the worst type of loss a Spurs fan can endure.

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    You can also be rest assured that when the ball goes up for the 2013-14 season, we'll be reminded of what could have been.

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    Dude all of Spurs nation was doing the same thing. was ing over. As a Heat fan friend of mine said after the game on Facebook, "someone on the Heat sold their soul for that win. The Spurs are toast now." I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that we handed the le to the Heat. It's like a nightmare I can't wake up from.
    did you really feel like it was over though? i know a lot of people online were supposedly euphoric before Pop and Manu made their mark in history. Personally, I never felt good about game 6, even with :28 seconds. like timtonymanu said above, i was texting similar things, I just didn't feel confident about this game. Why? I'm not sure. Part of it was the nature of the series, how it was back and forth, so I figured game 6 would be a tough obstacle to overcome since game 5 was ours.

    Also, there were minor things that bothered me leading up to the game, gut feelings I couldn't shake. Watching Pop at one of his press conferences, I just didn't have confidence in him. I'm not a Pophater either, but seeing how he acts sometimes, you realize he bullies people in the press because most likely of a deep insecurity over being questioned. Also there was Parker, when asked about Green's performance, he said some pissy like "yeah i can't believe they are letting him get so open." Just a moment where you realize he isn't a natural leader. So like Shaq said, and i agree with, if the general don't panic the troops won't. So before this game, I wasn't feeling confident about the so called leaders of this team.

    Tbh, the only reason we made it this far is because of the emergence of Kawhi and the resurgence of Timmy. Both of them were beautiful to watch and I'll always appreciate that.

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    did you really feel like it was over though? i know a lot of people online were supposedly euphoric before Pop and Manu made their mark in history. Personally, I never felt good about game 6, even with :28 seconds. like timtonymanu said above, i was texting similar things, I just didn't feel confident about this game. Why? I'm not sure. Part of it was the nature of the series, how it was back and forth, so I figured game 6 would be a tough obstacle to overcome since game 5 was ours.

    Also, there were minor things that bothered me leading up to the game, gut feelings I couldn't shake. Watching Pop at one of his press conferences, I just didn't have confidence in him. I'm not a Pophater either, but seeing how he acts sometimes, you realize he bullies people in the press because most likely of a deep insecurity over being questioned. Also there was Parker, when asked about Green's performance, he said some pissy like "yeah i can't believe they are letting him get so open." Just a moment where you realize he isn't a natural leader. So like Shaq said, and i agree with, if the general don't panic the troops won't. So before this game, I wasn't feeling confident about the so called leaders of this team.

    Tbh, the only reason we made it this far is because of the emergence of Kawhi and the resurgence of Timmy. Both of them were beautiful to watch and I'll always appreciate that.
    Danny Green breaking Ray Allen's NBA finals record was also key.

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    Danny Green breaking Ray Allen's NBA finals record was also key.
    Green was really good until the last two games and lots of people contributed, i'm just saying Kawhi and Timmy held the ing fort down til the very end.

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    Green was really good until the last two games and lots of people contributed, i'm just saying Kawhi and Timmy held the ing fort down til the very end.
    Kawhi and Timmy almost lead us to our fifth banner in Games 6&7 but Pop and Manu had to it all up in Game 6.

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    Kawhi and Timmy almost lead us to our fifth banner in Games 6&7 but Pop and Manu had to it all up in Game 6.
    You sound like a broken record here! How many times are you going to try to convince people of this? We saw the same games you did and it wasn't just those two at fault. Those are the facts! Call me Manu or Pop lover or whatever, but it still doesn't change the reality of the situation.
    Over the years there have been worse heartbreaks than this IMHO, like when Ice, Capt. Late, etc. we're playing and almost won the championship, the Washington Bullet series comes to mind, so you made your point, now get over it, please.

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    did you really feel like it was over though? i know a lot of people online were supposedly euphoric before Pop and Manu made their mark in history. Personally, I never felt good about game 6, even with :28 seconds. like timtonymanu said above, i was texting similar things, I just didn't feel confident about this game. Why? I'm not sure. Part of it was the nature of the series, how it was back and forth, so I figured game 6 would be a tough obstacle to overcome since game 5 was ours.

    Also, there were minor things that bothered me leading up to the game, gut feelings I couldn't shake. Watching Pop at one of his press conferences, I just didn't have confidence in him. I'm not a Pophater either, but seeing how he acts sometimes, you realize he bullies people in the press because most likely of a deep insecurity over being questioned. Also there was Parker, when asked about Green's performance, he said some pissy like "yeah i can't believe they are letting him get so open." Just a moment where you realize he isn't a natural leader. So like Shaq said, and i agree with, if the general don't panic the troops won't. So before this game, I wasn't feeling confident about the so called leaders of this team.

    Tbh, the only reason we made it this far is because of the emergence of Kawhi and the resurgence of Timmy. Both of them were beautiful to watch and I'll always appreciate that.
    Honestly yes I believed it was over, especially with the maturity of the team. Obviously even the Heat fans thought it was over, and so did the commentators. Talk about ting the bed.

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    I think Pop said that cause he knows he screwed over Timmy big time. Tim should be every Spurs fan's favorite player. Tim Duncan is the SA franchise and if we ended up with Keith Van Horn we wouldn't have a single championship right now. He put so much on the line, and we all know with Amy being a how much this championship would've meant to him.

    It boggles my mind, I can't wrap my brain around why Pop would ever trust Diaw over Duncan in the final 28 seconds of a closeout game of the NBA Finals. 28 seconds left to win, and Pop trusts Boris Diaw over Duncan, in what world is that a good decision?! I understand Pop's mentality of treat all of the players the same, well sometimes that has to go, Duncan has always been the leader and carried everyone on his back, he should've been in. Even the most casual basketball fan knows Timmy should've been in there, but for some reason Pop didn't. I still remember JVG in shock as they see Duncan sitting in both of Miami's final possessions of regulation. But seriously, you name me a scenario or a reason, and I'll explain how still Duncan should've been in there over Boris Diaw.

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    I think Pop said that cause he knows he screwed over Timmy big time. Tim should be every Spurs fan's favorite player. Tim Duncan is the SA franchise and if we ended up with Keith Van Horn we wouldn't have a single championship right now. He put so much on the line, and we all know with Amy being a how much this championship would've meant to him.

    It boggles my mind, I can't wrap my brain around why Pop would ever trust Diaw over Duncan in the final 28 seconds of a closeout game of the NBA Finals. 28 seconds left to win, and Pop trusts Boris Diaw over Duncan, in what world is that a good decision?! I understand Pop's mentality of treat all of the players the same, well sometimes that has to go, Duncan has always been the leader and carried everyone on his back, he should've been in. Even the most casual basketball fan knows Timmy should've been in there, but for some reason Pop didn't. I still remember JVG in shock as they see Duncan sitting in both of Miami's final possessions of regulation. But seriously, you name me a scenario or a reason, and I'll explain how still Duncan should've been in there over Boris Diaw.
    It was a horrible decision but I understand why Pop did it. He was afraid that Tim wouldn't be able to get out to defend the 3. The ironic thing is that nobody got out to defend the 3 anyway AND they missed the rebound because he wasn't there.

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    Honestly yes I believed it was over, especially with the maturity of the team. Obviously even the Heat fans thought it was over, and so did the commentators. Talk about ting the bed.
    you are right, a lot of people thought it was over, especially those people in Miami. I just had a weird feeling about this game, and I'm not saying i'm Nostradamus, just that I felt like my confidence was waivering in certain people.

    I agree with your feelings though on this series, least you are refreshingly honest enough to admit that. Too many people on here worry about ereps, being too cool for school. I do think it's healthy to move on, but I don't see the point in telling anyone to move on when I personally don't know how to force it. I haven't quite gotten over it myself,sometimes I'm at peace with it but other times, like you said on here, i feel like punching a wall.

    what's funny is I realize it's just sport, i've been through so much worse on a personal level. even in sports, last year's loss was heartbreaking, then I saw my Niners the bed in the SB after a decade of suckiness. I was able to get over those after awhile and there's always real life to deal with. BUt for some reason this has stuck and lingered in a way I've never experienced before. I guess because it was ultimately a self inflicted wound.

    The only silver lining I've taken from this horrible ending is that it exposed certain things. I always thought how much it would suck to lose Manu and Pop, but at this point in time, I'm ready to move on. I used to have Pop on the Mt Rushmore of coaches, and I would argue vehemently that he was better than Phil. But I think at this point, it's okay to admit that he doesn't belong there. Nothing wrong with that. So I believe they were exposed for who they currently are, and it would've happened at some point, it just sucks it went down the way it did.

    Conversely, Kawhi and Timmy were exposed in a great way, as having the right stuff til the end.

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    This. I don't understand why these Spurs homers want to cover their ears and not hear our criticism. They all think that we're some spoiled little brats, that we're not true Spurs fans, and that we are very negative. We're just being critical, not negative. Negative is whishing the team failure which we clearly don't. Calling us haters is such a lame argument. I know right? Them Spurs homers want to call us fake fans or bandwagon fans because we're sitting here criticizing and complaining about what should of happened. They say that we live in the past.

    Seriously, who lives more in the past? Them for remembering past glories and accomplishments therefore not willing to call out Pop and Manu for their deficiencies or us for still remembering Game 6? Popsuckers and Manu s live in the past just as much as we do or even worst by being consumed in their blind love for the team. 2007 is a much longer time than 2013 Game 6 therefore they're the delusional ones that are blinded by their homerism that are stuck in the past.

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    It was a horrible decision but I understand why Pop did it. He was afraid that Tim wouldn't be able to get out to defend the 3. The ironic thing is that nobody got out to defend the 3 anyway AND they missed the rebound because he wasn't there.
    First of all Tim is big, Tim would know giving up the 2 is way less devastating. Second, how many players out there were actually legitimate threats to shoot and make a shot? Cause we all know Chris Bosh isn't making a three.

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    The problem was that with 28 seconds to go all the team thought it's a done deal, that the game is over and the win will come to them like this, especially Pop was the one who the most fall a sleep with not giving what should have been the easiest call of his career, to foul in that last possession when you up by 3. I can't live with this feeling, it's like an arrow in your heart every moment every second, I needed that championship to save my life.
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    The problem was that with 28 seconds to go all the team thought it's a done deal, that the game is over and the win will come to them like this, especially Pop was the one who the most fall a sleep with not giving what should have been the easiest call of his career, to foul in that last position when you up by 3. I can't live with this feeling, it's like an arrow in your heart every moment every second, I needed that championship to save my life.
    Didn't seem like that to me, seemed that the players had more of a not to lose mentality than thinking it was over.

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    Didn't seem like that to me, seemed that the players had more of a not to lose mentality than thinking it was over.
    It's the same, they all fall a sleep, stop thinking and where phsychological down.

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    It's the same, they all fall a sleep, stop thinking and where phsychological down.
    Yeah, can't argue with that. I know he's the scapegoat, but can't believe Ginobili fell asleep and left Ray Allen wide open.

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    Especially when your name is Pop, and Stern had his minions threaten to burn your wine cellar if you didn't throw the Finals, otherwise it would be too obvious.

    I wish this was a joke, but it isn't.

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    Especially when your name is Pop, and Stern had his minions threaten to burn your wine cellar if you didn't throw the Finals, otherwise it would be too obvious.

    I wish this was a joke, but it isn't.
    just when I thought I was out..........they pull me back in!

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