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    This team is going to be horrible.
    "Horrible" by my definition is .500 or below. A lot of bad things had to happen for 2010 to turn out the way it did.

    I don't think Texas wins the conference, but I don't see any way they're "horrible" without someone like Ash going down.

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    Wasn't last year's defense statistically the worst defense in the school's history? Yeah... voting Texas to finish in the top 4 of this conference is being extremely, extremely generous.

    What makes you even remotely optimistic? Did you not see last year's defense? Did you forget that Vaccaro is now gone? Did you not watch the Spring Game where Ash through multiple interceptions? This team is going to be horrible.

    I was not very optimistic until recently. Bringing Robinson in to help with the defense was the smartest move Mack has made in a very long time. You can say what you want about Greg Robinson as a head coach but the man knows how to coach and run a defense. When he took over back in 2003, that defense was much like our defense we had today, lots of talent but little direction. In 2004 he made that defense the best in Mack's tenure at Texas. If he can duplicate that, then you will see Texas challenge for the MNC.

    There is no doubt this is a talented team, all the doubt lies with the coaches, well for me, a lot of that went away when Greg Robinson came aboard.

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    Define horrible. What do you predict their record will be? As good as Vaccaro is, last time I checked it, took more than one player to win games. I think the games against the Oklahoma schools will determine how good or bad their season will be.
    7 or fewer wins = horrible imo. With the resources that Texas has, a "bad year" should be a 10 win season. Vaccaro was an excellent safety and an excellent cover corner. Losing him will not make the team better. I'm thinking Texas will lose to both Oklahoma schools.

    "Horrible" by my definition is .500 or below. A lot of bad things had to happen for 2010 to turn out the way it did.
    Horrible, imo, is fewer than 8 wins. 7-5 is what I think this team will go and that's just absurd with the resources that Texas has.

    When he took over back in 2003, that defense was much like our defense we had today, lots of talent but little direction. In 2004 he made that defense the best in Mack's tenure at Texas.
    Texas gave up 30 or more points 5 times in the 2 years combined before Robinson took over the defense. In 2004, when he was running the defense, Texas gave up 30 or more points 2 times. It's not like the defense was horrible before he took over and he made it the #1 defense in the country. He did improve it some, but it wasn't some drastic change. To put it into perspective, the Texas defense gave up 30 or more points 6 times in 2012.

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    Wasn't last year's defense statistically the worst defense in the school's history? Yeah... voting Texas to finish in the top 4 of this conference is being extremely, extremely generous. What makes you even remotely optimistic? Did you not see last year's defense? Did you forget that Vaccaro is now gone? Did you not watch the Spring Game where Ash through multiple interceptions? This team is going to be horrible.
    Aside from what others have already mentioned, there is also the fact that this team is no longer a young team and has gotten progressively better over the tenure of most of the players. I think they have as good a shot as anyone in the conference right now to come out on top. I do agree with you though that if they lose four this season we may see some big changes.

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    7 or fewer wins = horrible imo. With the resources that Texas has, a "bad year" should be a 10 win season. Vaccaro was an excellent safety and an excellent cover corner. Losing him will not make the team better. I'm thinking Texas will lose to both Oklahoma schools.



    Horrible, imo, is fewer than 8 wins. 7-5 is what I think this team will go and that's just absurd with the resources that Texas has.



    Texas gave up 30 or more points 5 times in the 2 years combined before Robinson took over the defense. In 2004, when he was running the defense, Texas gave up 30 or more points 2 times. It's not like the defense was horrible before he took over and he made it the #1 defense in the country. He did improve it some, but it wasn't some drastic change. To put it into perspective, the Texas defense gave up 30 or more points 6 times in 2012.
    one of those two games you mention was against Michigan and it wasn't the defense that game up 30 pts it was the special teams that got it's but kicked with several huge run backs.

    The other game was to OSU which was the game we spotted them 35 pts and came back and beat them 56-35. One of the greatest comebacks in Texas history. Not only did we come back from 35 down but Texas didn't allow a single point in the 2nd half.

    Like I said, I'm excited about this years team and only a dumbass aggsy troll would call this team a 7-5 team even without Robinson this team is much better than that.

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    The latest from LSUfreek:


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    lolwat must be a troll, even shaggy isn't that negative. He even brought up the spring game lol.

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    only a dumbass aggsy troll would call this team a 7-5 team
    Is this site just another hornsfans where if you don't claim "this is the year" that you're a troll? It sure seems that way.

    Oh, and it's "aggy" you stupid ****. Who the calls aggy "aggsy"?

    lolwat must be a troll, even shaggy isn't that negative. He even brought up the spring game lol.
    Shaggy is turning into another hornsfans, at least on the football board. I got neg repped to when I said this team wasn't going to win 10 games. Seriously.

    I'll give you a minute to figure out why you're an idiot for mocking my use of the Spring Game, you know, actual game-like experience that shows the players performing (or not).

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    Inside Texas saying S Jamal Adams will be making an unofficial visit to Ole Miss this weekend.

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    A few recruiting notes from 24/7...

    -the in-state, committed DB that they have been referencing is still in talks with Texas and should be in Austin with his family on July 27th for the Texas Stampede. They aren't releasing his name at the request of the family.

    -2015 OL Patrick Vahe of Euless Trinity is scheduled to be in town on Monday with his family.

    -DE Victor Evans will also be visiting Ole Miss this weekend. Texas is still considered the heavy favorite.

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    Also from 24/7, 2015 QB/ATH JW Ketchum will be in Austin on the 27th.

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    I'll give you a minute to figure out why you're an idiot for mocking my use of the Spring Game, you know, actual game-like experience that shows the players performing (or not).
    Go watch every spring game in the last 10 years. Then come back and talk.

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    OL Jovan Pruitt of Dallas Bishop Dunne has committed to Arkansas.

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    Inside Texas reporting ATH Kevin Shorter will be at the Texas Stampede.

    UT may possibly be looking at him on defense now as opposed to RB.

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    We're almost a week out, so here's the first list of attendees for the upcoming Texas Stampede event. This a compilation from all of the sites:

    2014 Commitments
    RB, Donald Catalon, Aldine Eisenhower
    RB, D'Onta Foreman, Texas City
    WR, Roderick Bernard, Houston Sharpstown
    WR, Armanti Foreman, Texas City
    WR, Garrett Gray, Marble Falls
    WR, Lorenzo Joe, Abilene Cooper
    WR, Dorian Leonard, Longview
    WR, Emanuel Porter, Dallas Lincoln
    TE, John Thomas, Trinity Valley C.C. (Athens, TX)
    DT, Trey Lealaimatafao, San Antonio Warren
    DT/DE, Jake McMillon, Abilene
    DE, Derick Roberson, San Antonio Brennan
    DE, Sione Teuhema, Keller
    LB, Otaro Alaka, Cypress Falls
    LB, Cameron Hampton, Dallas Carter
    CB, Jermaine Roberts, St. Augustine (New Orleans, LA)

    2014 Targets
    RB, Treyvon Hughes, Carrollton Hebron
    OL, Joseph Paul, St. Augustine (New Orleans, LA)
    DT, DJ Williams, Lufkin
    DE, Victor Evans, Dallas Skyline
    LB/S, Edwin Freeman, Arlington Bowie
    CB/S, Tony Brown, Beaumont Ozen
    S, Jason Hall, South Grand Prairie
    ATH, Kevin Shorter, Newton

    2015 Commitments
    OL, Aaron Garza, Sherman
    OL, Connor Lanfear, Buda Hays
    OL, Maea Teuhema, Keller
    DT, Bryce English, DeSoto
    CB, Jalen Campbell, Corpus Christi Flour Bluff
    S, Johnny Shaw, Center
    ATH, Keke Coutee, Lufkin

    2015 Targets
    QB/ATH, JW Ketchum, Fort Bend Marshall
    RB, Rodney Anderson, Katy
    RB, Jay Bradford, Splendora
    RB, JaMycal Hasty, Longview
    WR, DaMarkus Lodge, Cedar Hill
    WR, Kemah Siverand, Cypress Ridge
    OL, Trevor Elbert, Rockwall-Heath
    DT, Tevin Boone, Cleburne
    DT, Daylon Mack, Gladewater
    DE/LB, Anthony Wheeler, Dallas Skyline
    LB, Malik Jefferson, Mesquite Poteet
    LB, Cameron Townsend, Fort Bend Ridge Point
    CB, Kris Boyd, Gilmer
    S, Justin Dunning, Whitehouse

    Not Attending
    QB, Jerrod Heard, Denton Guyer **wedding
    OL, Terrell Cuney, Jasper
    LB, Andrew Beck, Plant (Tampa, FL)
    2015 CB, Kendall Sheffield, Fort Bend Marshall **Junior Olympics (track)
    2015 S, Larry Pryor, Sulphur Springs

    Last edited by TFloss32; 07-22-2013 at 10:45 AM.

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    We're almost a week out, so here's the first list of attendees for the upcoming Texas Stampede event. This a compilation from all of the sites:

    2015 Targets
    QB/ATH, JW Ketchum, Fort Bend Marshall
    RB, Rodney Anderson, Katy
    RB, Jay Bradford, Splendora
    RB, JaMycal Hasty, Longview
    WR, DaMarkus Lodge, Cedar Hill
    WR, Kemah Siverand, Cypress Ridge
    OL, Trevor Elbert, Rockwall-Heath
    DT, Tevin Boone, Cleburne
    DT, Daylon Mack, Gladewater
    DE/LB, Anthony Wheeler, Dallas Skyline
    LB, Malik Jefferson, Mesquite Poteet
    LB, Cameron Townsend, Fort Bend Ridge Point
    CB, Kris Boyd, Gilmer
    S, Justin Dunning, Whitehouse

    Not Attending
    QB, Jerrod Heard, Denton Guyer **wedding
    OL, Terrell Cuney, Jasper
    LB, Andrew Beck, Plant (Tampa, FL)
    2015 CB, Kendall Sheffield, Fort Bend Marshall **Junior Olympics (track)
    2015 S, Larry Pryor, Sulphur Springs


    Don't know if it's been discussed but the 2015 class has a group that calls themselves the "Gang of Five" - they talk constantly about how they're all going to play together in college. Yeah I know group deals never work but it is interesting that 4 of the 5 will be on campus together. I highlighted the group in blue. Hasty is the only one on the outside as far as getting an offer but we'll see.

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    Don't know if it's been discussed but the 2015 class has a group that calls themselves the "Gang of Five" - they talk constantly about how they're all going to play together in college. Yeah I know group deals never work but it is interesting that 4 of the 5 will be on campus together. I highlighted the group in blue. Hasty is the only one on the outside as far as getting an offer but we'll see.
    Not sure who the other one is, but I thought they were being called "The East Texas Six"??

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    The sixth one is Boyd.

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    Speaking of the "East Texas Six", Inside Texas reported yesterday that 2015 RB Soso Jamabo of Plano West is a fan of the idea and wants to play with that group of guys. There's also talk that the group is looking for a QB which is interesting because one of Jamabo's best friends is 2015 QB Kyler Murray of Allen.

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    More quotes from 2015 RB JaMycal Hasty of Longview (HornsNation):

    “I have a little bit of interest in Texas, but after I go down there that’s when I’ll really decide if I like them or, you know, nah,” Hasty said. “I’m giving it a shot. I’m not ruling anyone out until I do make my decision.”

    “I’m looking forward to it (the Texas Stampede), especially with Daylon Mack and all those guys coming,” Hasty said. “I can’t wait for that. I’m not really sure what we’ll be doing that day, but I’m going to give coach [Larry] Porter a call in a few and see what he has to say.”

    “Those are the two (Baylor and Texas Tech) that have been showing me the most interest,” Hasty said. “The coaches and their whole staff, they all showed a whole bunch of love. I mixed real good with those coaches from Tech and from Baylor. They sound excited about me, and that makes me excited about them.”


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    Speaking of the "East Texas Six", Inside Texas reported yesterday that 2015 RB Soso Jamabo of Plano West is a fan of the idea and wants to play with that group of guys. There's also talk that the group is looking for a QB which is interesting because one of Jamabo's best friends is 2015 QB Kyler Murray of Allen.
    This is new to me with Mack new approach of offering younger kids, but I think the 2015 class could be one of his best. This is going to be a huge year. I think they need to win 10 to keep this class together and add a few 5-star types. Manziel and a&m taking a step backwards would help.

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    This is new to me with Mack new approach of offering younger kids, but I think the 2015 class could be one of his best. This is going to be a huge year. I think they need to win 10 to keep this class together and add a few 5-star types. Manziel and a&m taking a step backwards would help.
    I believe the unsung hero is Patrick Suddes. I wish he would've been in Austin in time to get his hands on the 2014 class because it's obvious interest from big-time prospects has been lacking. Up until he arrived, Texas was relying on program prestige to get by hoping kids would continue to crawl to Austin, but that's just not the case anymore. The implementation of his ideas has made a huge difference and generated a positive buzz. I do agree that winning is the biggest issue, however. We could very well see the 2015 guys start looking elsewhere if the upcoming season doesn't go well.

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    Update on 2015 LB Malik Jefferson from Mesquite Poteet (HornsNation):

    “I can say it (recruiting) is fun and it is annoying, because I’m used to it now,” Jefferson said. “I really don’t have a lot of time, though. It’s going by faster than I thought it would.”

    “I didn’t think I was going to be interested in Baylor, honestly. I’ll tell you that right now,” Jefferson said. “But I went and had the time of my life. Just going for that little visit, stuff like that makes me think I should slow down. I was going a little too fast.”

    “I’m giving everyone a chance,” he said. “With Texas, I wouldn’t put them No. 1 on my list yet because it’s a battle.”

    “I really can’t wait to see what that is (the Texas Stampede),” Jefferson said. “I’m kind of thinking it’s a big dinner or something like that.”

    “It’s going to be hard (making a decision),” Jefferson said. “I’m going to break some hearts someday.”

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    I actually like the 2014 class. Ultimately I see it as a top 15-20 class without the star power that you spoke about. A great season could change that, but this team is an enigma at this point. Add a JUCO DT or 2 and a couple dbs and call it a day.

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    2015 DT Daylon Mack talks more about his recruitment (OrangeBloods):

    "I just hope to get up there (Austin) and have another good time. I always have good time up there talking with coach (Stacy) Searels, (Bo) Davis and Mack Brown," Mack said. "But what's really going to sell me on Texas is the upcoming season. I've already seen the campus and all those things, now I just need to see how they do."

    "He (Bo Davis) really was the person that recruited me the hardest. He kind of slowed down because he figured I was going to A&M. rightfully so. I don't blame him. But he was the first person I told that I was slowing it down," Mack said. "I want to commit this time next year."

    "He was really excited. He said that's great and he's going to continue to recruit me hard. He does - he recruits me harder than anyone. I have the best relationship with him. He's just a guy I could be friends with even if I wasn't a high profile football player and he wasn't a coach. That's something I cherish."

    "I guess you could say they (Mack's parents) favor UT. My dad did grow up being a Longhorn fan, but he also wants to make the decision that's going to make me happy," Mack said. "They really don't push me to any one school, they just want me to be happy."

    "We're (the "East Texas Six") still trying to do it (commit to the same school). We're really serious about it. I just got done texting Malik (Jefferson) not too long ago. We talk about it quite often," Mack said. "If it happens, it's good. I don't think all six of us would end up at the same place, but maybe four of the six would end up there."

    "That's funny. I texted them (the other recruits) with a question like that not too long ago (about Malik Jefferson committing to Texas). They kind of said I don't know what we'd do, but it would be pretty tempting. They'd (Texas) have a good chance of getting me if that happens. Get that to happen and a 10-win season and they'd probably have me," Mack said.

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