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No, it's not fair to the kid. I'm all for them sponsoring a child if they want, though.
When my daughter calls it's usually.."hey dad, is mom around?" When my son wants some advice, watch the rasslin', toss the ball around, it's him and me. There are just some things where a daughter needs her mom and a son needs his dad. No teenage girl wants to talk to dad about her little situation. No boy wants to come to his mom over that school bully.
I know here's where we read....
If they both love the child, that's all that matters.
Stats have proven that kids who are adopted by gay parents do just as well...............
I find that hard to believe. Just yesterday....
Mason...wanna wrestle?
me...I'll just kick you ass.
He can't play that with mom, he can't go to the movies to see....The Avengers, Ironman, The Hulk, Thor...with mom. He can't drink a beer (at 19) with mom, , we have to sneak around. He can't talk about girls with mom. He can't...that Ryback (rassler) is a monster, he's bigger than you...with mom, she has no clue who Ryback is. Mom can't teach him how to fight, lift, play ball. How to play some harmonica, slide guitar.
Imagine two gay guys trying to raise a little girl, come on, that ain't right.
Shouldn't a child have the right to be raised in a normal setting? Would it be fair to them to deprive them of a mom or a dad? Why would anyone want that for a child?
As we all know kids can be cruel, showing up at some school function with your two dads, we all know how that's going to go.
If at all possible you place a child in a traditional home setting, that would be with a mom and a dad. Anything else isn't fair to the child.
No, it's not fair to the kid. I'm all for them sponsoring a child if they want, though.
Avante's premise is that everyone else is as stupid, bigoted and as closed minded as he is.
And fat. He's also fat.
Hey look, it's another re ed thread from Avante!
Isn't rasslin' with your son pretty gay?
I knew you wanted me!!!!! THere is no way you can post so much gay stuff without being at least a little curious. I can read behind the lines and yes yes YES I will 69 you!!! You've made me the happiest gay robot ever!!!!
classic
if this was the 50s, i would say this thread is right on. but since it is not then this thread gets two thumbs down
I have to disagree with you Avante.
Just look at chumpie and Blake -they turned out ok....wait!
Nevermind.
i see no issue with gay couples and adoption it can't be any worse than all the single parents
Who looks at it like that? We don't.
So a girl really doesn't need a mom, a son really doesn't need a father?
Society continues to evolve. Normalcy is completely objective, plastic, and redefined as society moves in a particular direction.
"Stats have proven that kids who are adopted by gay parents do just as well...............I find that hard to believe."
That may very well be, but stats do not lie. Nor do the mul ude of studies conducted on this.
I've known mothers who could handle these "manly" topics...my Grandmother was one of 'em.
Alternately, I was able to raise my daughter quite well. We had many discussions you seem unable to fathom. They happened, and my experience is really not unique at all. Would she have done better had her Mother and I stayed together? Unquestionably, no. Her mother shaped object was completely unable to raise her and her brother which is why the court awarded custody to me.
Would she have fared better had she been raised in a "normal" family? Dunno. That definition is changing as we speak. In a "traditional" family,(the phrase you seem to be working towards), there is no question children benefit from a balanced, Mom+ Dad perspective. But to say that without a man and a woman in these roles the child is being somehow shortchanged is demonstrably false. Conventional wisdom often is.
"He can't play that with mom, he can't go to the movies to see....The Avengers, Ironman, The Hulk, Thor...with mom. He can't drink a beer (at 19) with mom, , we have to sneak around. He can't talk about girls with mom. He can't...that Ryback (rassler) is a monster, he's bigger than you...with mom, she has no clue who Ryback is. Mom can't teach him how to fight, lift, play ball. How to play some harmonica, slide guitar."
I think you short-change people. I've known many mothers who could handle these "manly" topics. They're a dime a dozen from my neck of the woods.
While I personally don't really agree with sexuality, which is my right, I don't know that I would prefer to have some poor kid rot in the system over living in a home with people that will love him/her. That's a tough one that my wife and I have talked about. Not tough in that I would say no to them adopting just tough because of how I feel about sexuality.
Before I get beat down with the "what's wrong with two people who love each other" stuff, it's my right to disagree just as it is their right to live that lifestyle. I would never tell someone that they can't live how they want to I just choose not to agree with it. I'm not telling you that my way is right or the only way.
You're right, they don't need either one. Let them bounce around in foster care and in group homes. That makes WAY more sense. In fact, take away all those children who have single parents.
Word, he must have always been around weak, no backboned, small minded women all his life.
So you know women who played HS football, know all about the rasslin', have been in a lot of fights...? You know women where a boy would want to talk about girls with them? You know women who get out and change that flat while hubby watchs. You know women where it's them who get out of bed at 4am to check that noise in the night while hubby hides in the covers? You know women who will buy the boy some beer and sit and drink one with him? You know women who play poker with their son? I don't.
So you have no problems with two gay men trying to raise a little girl?
You do know there are also studies out there (will paste if need be) proving that the best situation for any child is a normal life with a mom and a dad.
Talk to me about real life here and how the other children view that abnormal situation. All the kids but Johnny have a mom and dd or a mom anyway, then there's his two dads. What will the other parents be thinking?
So if a child could be placed in a normal home or a gay one, you'd wouldn't care which one they ended up in with everything else being equal?
Did mom play football, wrestle, get in fights, drink beer, play poker....ah ..no. Did yours?
Now you are just reaching. Who says guys have to play football and "rassle"? Growing up, I used to go to my mom all the time for advice on chicks, it helped me out big time in that department.
Who says that the wife changes the tire while hubby watches? Who is to say that there is even a hubby? People get divorced, die, etc.
Either you are just trollin' trollin' trollin' or are really that stupid. I pick the latter.
Who says mom has to play football or wrestle? Was your dad your coach too? I know plenty of woem who play poker and drink beer even though my dear old ma didn't. Your must be weak as to not be able to think for herself and figure out a way to communicate with her boy.
lol avante's mom and wife only know about cooking and cleaning. What simple women. Explains a lot
Stupid is not knowing the difference between a man and a woman. Yep, we are different...honest!
A boy needs to grow up with a man in his life, if you don't understsand that I can't help you. Tons of studies have proven that...fact. A girl needs her mom, that's simply common sense, once again tons of studies have proven that...fact.
Believe it or not there really are some things a boy can only get from a dad and a girl can only get from her mom.
A child needs parents that love and care for them - the gender combination is irrelevant.
All that matters to me is whether or not the child receives the care, respect and love they are due. There are few, if any, gender qualifications for those.
I'm pretty sure your narrative is interpreting those "studies" for you.
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