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    Duncan is a center, Splitter plays well at center, and Baynes might be available for spot minutes this season. I don't see why the Spurs would want Asik when he clearly wants to start.

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    Prospective teams holding the rights to Joakim Noah, Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, Al Horford and Anthony Davis, as of now, have declined to involve their franchise players in any potential deals for Aldridge, a league source told CSNNW.com.

    There is no way Portland gives up Aldridge for Asik when they just acquire Lopez to be their starting C. And two with Lillard and McCollum, why in the would they want Lin.

    Asik and Lin are staying IMO. They are due 30 million next year (15 a piece) and that is why no one wants them. Rockets are stuck with those two for the next two years.

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    Duncan is a center, Splitter plays well at center, and Baynes might be available for spot minutes this season. I don't see why the Spurs would want Asik when he clearly wants to start.
    Trade Splitter for Asik straight up. Their salaries are similar so I'm pretty sure that the numbers match. Asik is a better rebounder and rim protector than Splitter. I'll take defense and rebounding over offense any time of the day. Chip can work on Asik's free throws. Timmy can teach him some footwork on the post like he's done with Tiago.

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    Asik and Lin are staying IMO. They are due 30 million next year (15 a piece) and that is why no one wants them. Rockets are stuck with those two for the next two years.
    They are actually due around half of that. Both Lin and Asik will earn just under $8.4M each this upcoming season (and the same salary the following season, which will be the final year in both of their deals).

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    They are actually due around half of that. Both Lin and Asik will earn just under $8.4M each this upcoming season (and the same salary the following season, which will be the final year in both of their deals).
    The way I understood it, the cap hit is around $8.3M per year, but the team who has Lin or Asik has to pay them $15M in actual cash for that third year (and around $5M for this year). Thus a team that trades for one of them has a cap hit of $8.3M each of the next two seasons, but actually has to pay out $20M in salary.

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    The way I understood it, the cap hit is around $8.3M per year, but the team who has Lin or Asik has to pay them $15M in actual cash for that third year (and around $5M for this year). Thus a team that trades for one of them has a cap hit of $8.3M each of the next two seasons, but actually has to pay out $20M in salary.
    Lin and Asik are both due ~$5M for 13/14 and ~$15M for 14/15, but their cap hits are ~$8.3M for each of the next two seasons. So it appears that you have the details correct. A team trading for Asik would have a pay ~$1.7M/year that won't count against the cap/luxury threshold. That means that they would get one of the best centers in the NBA for a below market contract. It really doesn't matter how much he gets in year 2 and year 3 of the contract, because a team trading for him is likely wanting to keep him for both remaining years. I think that Asik is a player that a LOT of teams would want to trade for - including the Spurs (if you listen to most of the fans on this forum before Splitter was resigned).

    Now Lin, OTOH, I have to agree with you. His deal is going to be MUCH more difficult to move, but not impossible. Remember when we thought that no one would be willing to take "he who shall remain nameless" off of our hands?

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    Lin and Asik are both due ~$5M for 13/14 and ~$15M for 14/15, but their cap hits are ~$8.3M for each of the next two seasons. So it appears that you have the details correct. A team trading for Asik would have a pay ~$1.7M/year that won't count against the cap/luxury threshold. That means that they would get one of the best centers in the NBA for a below market contract. It really doesn't matter how much he gets in year 2 and year 3 of the contract, because a team trading for him is likely wanting to keep him for both remaining years. I think that Asik is a player that a LOT of teams would want to trade for - including the Spurs (if you listen to most of the fans on this forum before Splitter was resigned).

    Now Lin, OTOH, I have to agree with you. His deal is going to be MUCH more difficult to move, but not impossible. Remember when we thought that no one would be willing to take "he who shall remain nameless" off of our hands?
    Lin's numbers weren't bad at all last season. Per of 14.9 (Just below league average) 13.5 pts, (44FG % 33.9 3PT, both just below average) 6.2 asts, 2.9 T.Os (better than his Linsanity turnover fest) and has really only played 1 season and 1/2. He is 24 (going on 25). He also provides built in interest from overseas which could be lucrative in and of itself. A bad team looking for a PG could do much worse. He can definitely still improve. Once he gets settled into a situation (he's been on 4 teams already) he could be a much more consistent player. The thing that is holding him back is his shooting (he struggled early on from the field before raising it up a bit) If he can hit for above the league average of 35%3pt he become an above average player.

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    going to portland for artridge
    throw in lin also

    roockets could then be scary
    Would be scary A L.A./ Harden p&r situation.

    Portland would have a decent front line but would need a floor space with Lopez and Asik in the rotation.

    Lin would probably have to play off ball at the 2 and also play backup pg Behind Lillard. I'd make Houston throw in a 1st rounder before pulling the trigger on the deal if I was Portland.

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