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  1. #151
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    nothing hypothetical about that son...phone records show her phone went dead right up to the altercation or impact...you cannot spin your way out of this...like I said from the start...I'm literally smarter than you guys...yall have nothing...but more spinning and not even looking at case evidence...when you do come back and present the story ;-)
    not talking about the phone record. your scenario on how exactly the conflict went down is all purely hypothetical. hypothetical and cir stantial evidence isn't going to get a murder coniction

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    about as plausible as Zim saying to 911 "I am follwing" and then to Sean Hannity "I wasn't following"

    keep your head in your ass....Eric Holder is coming for Zimmerman...so enjoy this short lived victory of the young man's death while you can
    Like you said under Homeland_Security, Holder is just making a circus to deflect from Hussein's other scandals.

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    about as plausible as Zim saying to 911 "I am follwing" and then to Sean Hannity "I wasn't following"

    keep your head in your ass....Eric Holder is coming for Zimmerman...so enjoy this short lived victory of the young man's death while you can
    Man..all you see is red..how many times do I have to say Zim was wrong? He shouldn't have gotten out of his car. You're not answering his question though...How do you know Tray didn't start it with a punch before Zim grabbed him, followed by "Get off of me." You don't know that. You have one person who was there in person, and another one who was on a phone. You want to discredit ? Fine..take the "creepy cracker" out of it. You still have someone who saw the saying Trayvon was beating the out of Zim...witness in person beats witness on the phonePERIOD

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    not talking about the phone record. your scenario on how exactly the conflict went down is all purely hypothetical. hypothetical and cir stantial evidence isn't going to get a murder coniction
    Spin away kid..but until you come to terms with why you believe Racheal when she's "negative" about Tray vs when she's "positive" then we have nothing further to discuss..it's the same rationale from the all-white Jury..Juror 37 openly admitted on CNN : "When Racheal said Trayvon called him a creepy cracka I certainly believed that." -- why but of course she did ....now when it came to what she heard on the phone at the moment Zim caught up with Trayvon that piece was not believable because the jury had already made up their minds...If they thought Rachael was a liar why believe only the negative stuff about her friend..In all honesty Racheal Jeantel with her painting her friend in an unglowing light showed that as person she has way more integrity and honesty than any of those jurors willing to let a murder go free because he fit their profile of what a "real" American is...

    I'm done with you...you've proved to me my intellectual inferior...have a good evening dude..

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    Man..all you see is red..how many times do I have to say Zim was wrong? He shouldn't have gotten out of his car. You're not answering his question though...How do you know Tray didn't start it with a punch before Zim grabbed him, followed by "Get off of me." You don't know that. You have one person who was there in person, and another one who was on a phone. You want to discredit ? Fine..take the "creepy cracker" out of it. You still have someone who saw the saying Trayvon was beating the out of Zim...witness in person beats witness on the phonePERIOD
    yeah yeah...whatever "he kick my cat he was wrong" I can see your justified moral equivalence...kick a cat..kill a ...like popping a can of grape soda..I get it

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    nonstop deflecting and hypothetical scenarios. i never said i don't believe rachael's testimony. for all i know, Martin DID say "get off me" but that again doesn't show that he didnt start the fight. its possible he sucker punched him and GZ held onto him on the way down, prompting him to say "get off me."

    its all hypothetical = NO conviction.

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    nonstop deflecting and hypothetical scenarios. i never said i don't believe rachael's testimony. for all i know, Martin DID say "get off me" but that again doesn't show that he didnt start the fight. its possible he sucker punched him and GZ held onto him on the way down, prompting him to say "get off me."

    its all hypothetical = NO conviction.
    so if Martin didn't start the fight and Zim didn't start the fight how do we know who's telling the truth since one his dead...we do that by looking at who told the first and VERY BIG lie... Capish?

    911: "Are you following"
    Zimmerman: "Yes"
    911: "Please don't"

    Sean Hannity: "Were you following"
    Zimmerman: "No I was not"

    ^ this is all we have to go on...and it's the genesis of everything else this violent guy Zim (assault on a cop, beating his girlfriend, and molesting his cousin) is all about...sure his past wasn't admissible but were not in court at the moment...the laws of reasonableness is on my side...a guy with a clear violent past, armed with a gun no safety, chasing down a 16 yr old and you want me to believe Zim didn't throw the first punch...haha yeah right...grow up kid we're living in the real world..enough with the video games and cartoons

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    so if Martin didn't start the fight and Zim didn't start the fight how do we know who's telling the truth since one his dead...we do that by looking at who told the first and VERY BIG lie... Capish?

    911: "Are you following"
    Zimmerman: "Yes"
    911: "Please don't"

    Sean Hannity: "Were you following"
    Zimmerman: "No I was not"

    ^ this is all we have to go on...and it's the genesis of everything else this violent guy Zim (assault on a cop, beating his girlfriend, and molesting his cousin) is all about...sure his past wasn't admissible but were not in court at the moment...the laws of reasonableness is on my side...a guy with a clear violent past, armed with a gun no safety, chasing down a 16 yr old and you want me to believe Zim didn't throw the first punch...haha yeah right...grow up kid we're living in the real world..enough with the video games and cartoons
    correct. unfortunately, its not enough for a conviction

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    correct. unfortunately, its not enough for a conviction
    actually it is since it's physical evidence..just depends on which set of eyes the jury is viewing....this jury is just as inept and culpable as the OJ Jury

    and the Casey Anthony jury....avgerage people being asked to judge as case and don't know how in the to interpret law or practice common sense...if I'm on that Jury I start with Zim's lie and we examine it to conclusion...the Jury like the previous one I served on will either hang or see things my way...they saw things my way and went home...some we're pissed but I set the bar high and drive a hard bargain...just how it is with Kool....you see Cully couldn't handle and ran on...only the strong survive

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    yeah yeah...whatever "he kick my cat he was wrong" I can see your justified moral equivalence...kick a cat..kill a ...like popping a can of grape soda..I get it
    lol..just as I assumed..I'll repeat what I said...you're more racist than anyone in here. Again...I hate that Trayvon died..shouldn't have happened. But tell me something, son...where are all these angry statements and digging up google to find threads to hang on when thousands of blacks are killing blacks and whites are killing whites? Why does it take a media drive "racist" trial for you to be angry about murder? I mean, aren't we supposed to be all the same? If you're mad at Zim for being "racist" is it cool that all those white people I posted about earlier were killed, raped, and burned alive by blacks? Is that ok? I didn't see you getting angry about any of that.

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    actually it is since it's physical evidence..just depends on which set of eyes the jury is viewing....this jury is just as inept and culpable as the OJ Jury

    and the Casey Anthony jury....avgerage people being asked to judge as case and don't know how in the to interpret law or practice common sense...if I'm on that Jury I start with Zim's lie and we examine it to conclusion...the Jury like the previous one I served on will either hang or see things my way...they saw things my way and went home...some we're pissed but I set the bar high and drive a hard bargain...just how it is with Kool....you see Cully couldn't handle and ran on...only the strong survive
    But you'd never be on that trial, because they don't allow racists....and someone who is basing their entire decision on believing someone on the phone over someone in person shows that.

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    Like you said under Homeland_Security, Holder is just making a circus to deflect from Hussein's other scandals.
    This.... the whole trial was just a classic wedge issue distraction and (predictably) 90% of Americans took the bait, tbh.... served for a nice distraction from Detroit going bankrupt (after Barry said during his campaign that it wouldn't), the NSA debate, and the IRS scandal....

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    so if Martin didn't start the fight and Zim didn't start the fight how do we know who's telling the truth since one his dead...we do that by looking at who told the first and VERY BIG lie... Capish?

    911: "Are you following"
    Zimmerman: "Yes"
    911: "Please don't"

    Sean Hannity: "Were you following"
    Zimmerman: "No I was not"

    ^ this is all we have to go on...and it's the genesis of everything else this violent guy Zim (assault on a cop, beating his girlfriend, and molesting his cousin) is all about...sure his past wasn't admissible but were not in court at the moment...the laws of reasonableness is on my side...a guy with a clear violent past, armed with a gun no safety, chasing down a 16 yr old and you want me to believe Zim didn't throw the first punch...haha yeah right...grow up kid we're living in the real world..enough with the video games and cartoons
    So you're basing an entire case on which of the two people lied first when one of them wasn't even alive. How could Martin lie if he wasn't there. How do we know Jenteal didn't lie? We don't. We can't put someone away for murder because of that. It doesn't work that way.

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    This.... the whole trial was just a classic wedge issue distraction and (predictably) 90% of Americans took the bait, tbh.... served for a nice distraction from Detroit going bankrupt (after Barry said during his campaign that it wouldn't), the NSA debate, and the IRS scandal....
    yup

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    But you'd never be on that trial, because they don't allow racists....and someone who is basing their entire decision on believing someone on the phone over someone in person shows that.
    they allowed 5 white racists and 1 mexican racist...all you gotta do is fit a profile and lie your ass off the serve on a jury... is simple..you've obviously never served

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    So you're basing an entire case on which of the two people lied first when one of them wasn't even alive. How could Martin lie if he wasn't there. How do we know Jenteal didn't lie? We don't. We can't put someone away for murder because of that. It doesn't work that way.
    Bingo you're the master of the obvious....we can and we should put people away for lying in a murder case...you're a neanderthal...dude your duty for this country and swallow your pistol...please

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    lol..just as I assumed..I'll repeat what I said...you're more racist than anyone in here. Again...I hate that Trayvon died..shouldn't have happened. But tell me something, son...where are all these angry statements and digging up google to find threads to hang on when thousands of blacks are killing blacks and whites are killing whites? Why does it take a media drive "racist" trial for you to be angry about murder? I mean, aren't we supposed to be all the same? If you're mad at Zim for being "racist" is it cool that all those white people I posted about earlier were killed, raped, and burned alive by blacks? Is that ok? I didn't see you getting angry about any of that.

    because there's a bigger issue at stake here...stop feignig ignorance....the majority and their at udes that they can kill innocent people committing no crimes must be stopped..if it goes unchecked we go to vigilante justice...and a reincarnation of the civil war...you guys for people who claim they're educated think real small..asking dumb ass questions - lol

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    because there's a bigger issue at stake here...stop feignig ignorance....the majority and their at udes that they can kill innocent people committing no crimes must be stopped..if it goes unchecked we go to vigilante justice...and a reincarnation of the civil war...you guys for people who claim they're educated think real small..asking dumb ass questions - lol
    and yet you won't answer...was it ok for all those white kids and young people to be killed, raped, and burned alive by blacks? Why weren't you up in arms about that? Marley Lion was a 17 year old (just like Trayvon) sitting in the back of his car when he was shot and murdered by a 30 year old (just like Zim) while robbing him. He did nothing either. Is that ok? Where was the media on that one?

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    My point is...media is driving this as racism....it's not a racism trial...it's a trial where one guy shot another guy..it happens all the damn time. Nobody gets up in arms about all the people dying every day. But when all of a sudden there's a lot of bad things going on this country, they decide to pick something for everyone to focus on instead of the fact that this country is going down the damn tubes...and you're one of the pawns falling for it.

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    and yet you won't answer...was it ok for all those white kids and young people to be killed, raped, and burned alive by blacks? Why weren't you up in arms about that? Marley Lion was a 17 year old (just like Trayvon) sitting in the back of his car when he was shot and murdered by a 30 year old (just like Zim) while robbing him. He did nothing either. Is that ok? Where was the media on that one?
    none of it was right...but I only follow what's thrust upon me...Trayvon's case made it to the light and if those other cases made it I'd follow them too...I'm for right..I take no racial sides...this case was racial but it's also clear Zim is a murderer I don't care what kind of evidence they deemed not admissible...just like OJ was guilty and Casey Anthony is guilty...I have lots of white friend I grew up with they just happen mostly all be extremely progressive / liberal / democrat...

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    Hey Kool... what's your opinion of the Detroit 300?

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    Hey Kool... what's your opinion of the Detroit 300?
    I didn't follow it...never heard of it....but if it fits my standard of justice based on my regulating in this thread then you have your answer...

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    It's still a white-dominated society and blacks should learn to comform to it, but on the other hand, white people also need to respect them s more, treat them as humans rather than animals or sub-humans. s and whites can live in peace imho, some black thugs cause messes without a reason but they're the black sheep in the black community, and whites have their own share of assholes too. s are humans just like you and me, and the fact couldn't be denied just because they look differently, imho.

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    I agree with 092120, the media can be heinously and intentionally misleading. Journalists don't fear to light up a cracker, they only fear that it doesn't explode, because they would lose their jobs if there's no "news" going on. They intentionally divert the whole discussion towards the evil end in order to drive people mad, but you don't need to swallow whatever the media are trying to beat down your throat imho

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    I agree with 092120, the media can be heinously and intentionally misleading. Journalists don't fear to light up a cracker, they only fear that it doesn't explode, because they would lose their jobs if there's no "news" going on. They intentionally divert the whole discussion towards the evil end in order to drive people mad, but you don't need to swallow whatever the media are trying to beat down your throat imho
    All I'm trying to say...


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