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Richards finishes w/ 18 pts on 8-11 shooting. Crashed the boards hard which I liked. Had some good moves where he flashed off his potential and athletic ability. Showed off his 3-point stroke too. He had a couple moments that left you frustrated though, as well. He's only 22. I really hope this kid puts it together in the next couple years tbh.
Just when we think we can let him go without lost opportunity costs, Richards has a random good game.
Is it a trap?
Too late.
5 legit summer league prospects who deserve training camp invite/roster spot.............................
1. deshaun thomas
2. dexter pittman
3. hollis thompson
4. marcus denmon
5. ryan richards
I Expect:
-Thomas to Europe. Didn't show enough after a poor performance. Although he did string together a few strong games, he doesn't seem ready to fill a role on this team, at least at this time.
-Thompson and Pittman to recieve a training camp invite. Thinking New York.
-Richards to recieve interest from at least one European team. He didn't really have a strong summer league but he did show he has the skills to compete. Let's hope a strong coach sees enough to give him a shot.
-Denmon back to Europe, although he does look ready to be a third string on some team. I wonder if the Spurs won't trade him to give him a shot some where rather than have him banished in Europe for the next 2 years at least.
All in all nothing to see here. Cory and Nando didn't really show much. I wonder if they are enough for a sign and trade for Mo Williams. But I'm not sold on either. Cory still turns the ball over when he's aggressive and barrels to the rim out of control while Nando is only confident when he's playing risky.
If Thomas goes to Europe, Thompson probably goes to camp with the Spurs. The 15th spot will likley be open.
Richards may force a camp invite, but it will say a lot about his character if he doesn't. If the Spurs bring him into camp, it will likely be on a three-year deal with the rest of the MLE. He needs time in Austin.
You were on a roll until you mentioned Mo Williams
I hear you but he is the only realistic option at this point of the offseason as a backup that can shoot and handle.
Dexter Pittman has been great so far. Any chance he can make the Spurs roster?
None. The Spurs have three centers and three power-forwards on the roster already. If another big gets on the roster, it would be Richards. Pittman just doesn't have the upside or investment.
I agree with the none part, but I think Oden has more of chance than Richards.
I don't think Oden has any chance to being on the Spurs. I don't think the Spurs even want him. The only reason why Richards may sneak on is because he's a draft pick. I think the last roster spot will go to either Neal or a pick.
Well in the Odens high on Pop thread it stated that the Spurs and him spoke twice. I think that the Spurs signed Pendergraph as a sure thing as opposed to Oden which is like who knows. Don't want to wait around for a player and end up with nothing. But in a basketball sense we are the best fit, whether he realizes that or not is all on him. If Oden says let's get it done, I don't think the Spurs would pass on a low risk high reward player. I do think Deshaun Thomas makes a difference to some degree. Odens known as a private guy and being familiar to at least one guy would make a move to a new team somewhat easier. I was hoping Deshaun would do better for this reason, but he didn't have the type of game I feel he would need to make the team. It also would have made things alot more complicated; would've set the Spurs up for a trade to open roster spots.
Richards has shown that he has the talent, but after tonight solid showing, it may have opened a door for a better team in Europe. If it hasn't even done that then how would it open a door here. I get the whole he needs x and y and we can give it to him but millions of dollars and a roster spot to cater to him and then risk an Ian again. From what I can tell the Spurs like guys that can handle adversity, he hasn't shown he can. Now if he gets it together and in a couple years comes back more mature thats another story. But who knows he does have alot of potential. His confidence seems to be easily swayed and I think the Spurs culture does have the power to help with things like this. I even replied that Collison could benefit, so why not Richards. I would think the Spurs having a two year window would stack players that can contribute on a nightly basis than surrender a spot. With that said I could see a roster spot for him in two years if he hasn't panned out, which would make him 24(?), with a likely new roster looking to hit homeruns again.
Whether Richards comes to camp depends on both the team and the player. They can't say, "Come back when we think you're ready, and we'll sign you." If he's tired of playing overseas, then he'll sign his tender and enter the league. Honestly, him piddling around in the d-league would probably be better than him playing the leagues he's slated to play in next season. If he thinks he'll catch onto another team, he has leverage.
The team has absolutely no need for Oden. With his injuries, he doesn't even have a spot in the rotation. Unless Baynes goes to another team, I just don't see the fit.
That is green, tbh
Postgame: Cory Joseph
7.19.13 |
4m8s
Postgame: Marcus Denmon
7.19.13 |
2m48s
Why do some people keep insisting on Richards? They guy looks like a complete scrub to me that has no brain outside of last night's game.
If anything, I've been more impressed with Dexter Pittman's performance throughout the summer than anything I've seen from Richards. The idea that Richards has more of a right to get an invite to camp just because he's a Spurs draft pick is the most absurd thing that I've heard. Could it be that you'll want the FO to look good or give a good impression?
If anything, I think Hollis Thompson or Dexter Pittman deserve an invite to camp. They bring hustle, rebounding, and defense which are all things that Spurs have lacked for a myriad of years until Kawhi's emergence and Duncan's renaissance. Chipp can always work on their shot should they make the team which I highly doubt.
We used to win championships playing defense and were 28 seconds away from winning another one being a top 3 defensive team in 2013
I agree.
We keep going over this same concept. As a draft pick, Richards (as well as Denmon, Thomas and all the second-rounders stashed abroad) has a legal right according to the CBA to force the Spurs to either sign him to a contract or let him go. They can't keep leaving him in Europe without his consent. So it Richards decides it, he will be at training camp the same way Jack McClinton was. If the Spurs have hope they can develop him in Austin, they will probably give him a three-year deal with the first year guaranteed (as mandated by the MLE). If they don't, he'll get a one-year deal and get cut immediately after camp.
Pittman is not a draft pick. The Spurs don't have an incentive not to waste his rights. They know he's not in their plans now, so they don't need to waste a roster spot on him. No one who watched all five games thinks that Richards had a better summer league than Pittman. But Richards definitely has more upside. The Spurs might think he'll be a rotation player two years down the line. I doubt they think that about Pittman.
It's similar to the Thompson/Thomas issue. The Spurs are likely going to try to send Thomas to Europe. But they could easily invite Thompson to camp, because they don't lose anything by him getting cut. If Thomas forces his way to camp, he'd likely get the same deal that Richards would get. (It'd be an either/or thing between them, though.) He has a legal right to force the team's hand.
Did not know that. Out of the three I could see Denmon doing that. He seems the most NBA ready.
I could totally understand why Richards would do that; his career in Europe is at a low and he's been wanting to come over since the draft. I doubt the Spurs would want to lose him for nothing considering he still has his age and potential on his side. A strong mentor like Duncan could be the world of difference not to mention the development time in Austin. I think if the Spurs had more roster spots it would be more likely of happening, but with one spot they would most likely leave it open till the trade deadline unless they found a player they really like that fills a team need.
Wouldn't mind trading Nando and CoJo for a true ball handling backup PG. Also wouldn't mind trading Bonner and Neal for a good backup SF. If we could send four people and get two players then we would have room for Richards/Thompson.
I wish that each team had 16th and 17th spots specifically for d-league assignments. Those players would not be allowed to be called up for a least a year, and they'd get paid somewhere between the d-league max and the NBA rookie minimum. The NBA needs to try to get its teams more invested in the d-league. Then again, I also support a d-league-only third round of the draft.
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