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    DT1UpNComin DeShaun Thomas 4m
    At the airport waiting on my flight back to Columbus be there for a few days it been a while pic.twitter.com/RbqhSh6gmi

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    Agreed. His only chance was to have an amazing summer league. He was doing a great job of it too until the last two games. He probably goes to Europe now and gets relooked next season. Probably a good thing too as he wouldn't have made much of a difference this season.
    I wouldnt say it was his only chance but it would have helped alot thats for sure. I would say the odds are 50/50 for ST being on the spurs next season still. Got the rest of the summer and training camp to decide so I do not expect the spurs to decide until then. The spurs have a couple of contracts they could possibly move and still 2 RFA to deal with so I guess we are going to have to wait and see.

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    I wouldnt say it was his only chance but it would have helped alot thats for sure. I would say the odds are 50/50 for ST being on the spurs next season still. Got the rest of the summer and training camp to decide so I do not expect the spurs to decide until then. The spurs have a couple of contracts they could possibly move and still 2 RFA to deal with so I guess we are going to have to wait and see.
    If Thomas (or any of the second-rounder) goes to training camp, then the option to stash them in Europe next season goes away. The Spurs have to sign him to a contract to bring him to camp, and doing so then cutting him relinquishes his rights.

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    If Thomas (or any of the second-rounder) goes to training camp, then the option to stash them in Europe next season goes away. The Spurs have to sign him to a contract to bring him to camp, and doing so then cutting him relinquishes his rights.
    Bingo

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    If Thomas (or any of the second-rounder) goes to training camp, then the option to stash them in Europe next season goes away. The Spurs have to sign him to a contract to bring him to camp, and doing so then cutting him relinquishes his rights.
    Thanks for pointing that out, did not knwo that. Then it all comes down what changes if any happen to the current roster from now till training camp. I will just roll the 50/50 odds over to training camp invite for DT then, cause if he gets a an invite then the odds go up quite a bit on him making the team.

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    Thanks for pointing that out, did not knwo that. Then it all comes down what changes if any happen to the current roster from now till training camp. I will just roll the 50/50 odds over to training camp invite for DT then, cause if he gets a an invite then the odds go up quite a bit on him making the team.
    It will come down to Thomas. I think the Spurs' preference is to send him to Europe no matter what. If he's okay with that, then he needs to start looking for teams overseas before they fill their rosters. If he's not, the Spurs will sign him for almost certainly at least two seasons on a non-guaranteed contract. If they really like him, they could even give him the three-year deal they have saved up. That would guarantee his roster spot for next season. I actually expect Thomas and the team to decide pretty soon.

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    It will come down to Thomas. I think the Spurs' preference is to send him to Europe no matter what. If he's okay with that, then he needs to start looking for teams overseas before they fill their rosters. If he's not, the Spurs will sign him for almost certainly at least two seasons on a non-guaranteed contract. If they really like him, they could even give him the three-year deal they have saved up. That would guarantee his roster spot for next season. I actually expect Thomas and the team to decide pretty soon.
    Well, if thats the case I think DT and his agent have all the momentum in negotiations. I am 100% that DT can get signed for at least the minumum by an NBA team which probably would equal his overseas salary as well. If I am DT I simply say I am staying and plan on playing in the NBA next season so either sign me up or cut me loose. No way are the spurs going to sign another player as good as DT for the amount of $ his salary will be for the next 2-3 seasons.

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    Well, if thats the case I think DT and his agent have all the momentum in negotiations. I am 100% that DT can get signed for at least the minumum by an NBA team which probably would equal his overseas salary as well. If I am DT I simply say I am staying and plan on playing in the NBA next season so either sign me up or cut me loose. No way are the spurs going to sign another player as good as DT for the amount of $ his salary will be for the next 2-3 seasons.
    It depends on whether or not he agreed to go to Europe before the Spurs drafted him. If he did, then him trying to back out now probably wouldn't go over well with the Spurs' front office. If he didn't, the Spurs are probably prepared to either step up with the three-year deal or to lose his rights.

    I think Thomas is overrated. He's a good scorer, but he's not a knock-down shooter. That means a lot to a team like the Spurs who don't rely on 12th men creating their own shots. The fact that he's bad defensively is a huge problem. It's one thing to be a perimeter player and be bad on defense. But big men honestly can't afford it. I can see Thomas being the anti-Bonner in the sense that fans love him but he routinely leads his teams in negative plus-minus. I think the Spurs like him, but they won't be held hostage by him. They've shown the ability to get really good production out of minimum contracts. I think they can replace Thomas a lot more easily than people realize.

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    You're the only dumbass here making invalid points just to try to defend your worthless argument. In regards to me being a troll...Swallow that.
    A poster online said something that's similar to your opinion... It must be true... Lol

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    It depends on whether or not he agreed to go to Europe before the Spurs drafted him. If he did, then him trying to back out now probably wouldn't go over well with the Spurs' front office. If he didn't, the Spurs are probably prepared to either step up with the three-year deal or to lose his rights.

    I think Thomas is overrated. He's a good scorer, but he's not a knock-down shooter. That means a lot to a team like the Spurs who don't rely on 12th men creating their own shots. The fact that he's bad defensively is a huge problem. It's one thing to be a perimeter player and be bad on defense. But big men honestly can't afford it. I can see Thomas being the anti-Bonner in the sense that fans love him but he routinely leads his teams in negative plus-minus. I think the Spurs like him, but they won't be held hostage by him. They've shown the ability to get really good production out of minimum contracts. I think they can replace Thomas a lot more easily than people realize.
    I agree with him probably being overrated and I have probably contributed to that here as well. With that said I cannot see the spurs letting him walk at age 21 and making the minimum without seeing what he possibly looks like in 2-3 seasons. The fact is he looked pretty damn good in 2 games and average in the reamaining 2. There is enough fascination with this guy that says the risk of taking up a roster spot is well worth the amount of $ invested in him for what could be a very good finished product. Its players like this that Austin should be the primary grooming tool fo and I think players like Joseph proves that it works.

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    What's probably best for the spurs at this point is for Thomas to play 1 or 2 years developing in Europe. Hopefully he can be a building block for the future.

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    Thomas didn't get drafted with the promise he would agreed to be stashed overseas.

    http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/cont...in-europe.html
    Deshaun Thomas’ agent, J.R. Hensley, returned my calls today and said that the San Antonio Spurs, before drafting Thomas last week, did not seek nor get a guarantee from him that he would spend his rookie season playing in Europe.

    “It was not put like that,” Hensley said. “He is not guaranteed a roster spot, but he’ll have an opportunity, I think, to make the roster. If that’s not viable at some point, we’ll explore our options with them.”

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    Thomas didn't get drafted with the promise he would agreed to be stashed overseas.

    http://buckeyextra.dispatch.com/cont...in-europe.html
    Would it be in his best interest at this point to agree to go to Europe or to try force the spurs to sign him and bring him to training camp?

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    Would it be in his best interest at this point to agree to go to Europe or to try force the spurs to sign him and bring him to training camp?
    For the tenth time, DT or his agent has never talked about going the Euro route, EVER. Read just todays post in this thread and it should help explain possiblities for the DT and the spurs.

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    Would it be in his best interest at this point to agree to go to Europe or to try force the spurs to sign him and bring him to training camp?
    IMO, his best interest is to sign directly with Spurs even if they are trying to convince him to go overseas. It would be the smarter career move to do.

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    For the tenth time, DT or his agent has never talked about going the Euro route, EVER. Read just todays post in this thread and it should help explain possiblities for the DT and the spurs.
    i didn't as what his possibilities were. I asked Bruno's opinion about the options.

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    Rumours about Thomas and Partizan,his agent denied it.Best option for him if he plans to play in Europe.Partizan needs a starting sf.I believe he would explode in euroleague.

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    Rumours about Thomas and Partizan,his agent denied it.Best option for him if he plans to play in Europe.Partizan needs a starting sf.I believe he would explode in euroleague.
    Do you have a link to any of these rumors?

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    Do you have a link to any of these rumors?
    http://hotsport.rs/2013/07/21/tomas-...pitena-lucica/

    But as i said his agent denied it quickly.

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    I still have my doubts about DT going to Europe but I guess Partizan is as good a team as any if he goes. Thx

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    I don't see Thomas being able to help much this season so I hope the Spurs don't use a roster spot on him. JMO.

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    Rumours about Thomas and Partizan,his agent denied it.Best option for him if he plans to play in Europe.Partizan needs a starting sf.I believe he would explode in euroleague.
    This would not surprise me given his specific skill set. If he can find a big role on a decent team it might be better for his overall growth as a player. Endearing himself to SA by helping them out this way wouldn't hurt either.

    Plus - and I don't know whether Deshaun values this sort of thing or not - from a life experience perspective it seems like a no brainer if that sort of option were available.

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    I don't see Thomas being able to help much this season so I hope the Spurs don't use a roster spot on him. JMO.
    Well, if the spurs are depending on the 14th and 15th roster spot to help them win a championship then are already screwed anyways. I have always liked those spots for younger D league players.

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    How many players Spurs drafted and then went in Europe to play,ever came back to play for the Spurs?

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    How many players Spurs drafted and then went in Europe to play,ever came back to play for the Spurs?
    None that I can recall. It seems to be a one way ticket currently but this could change with the end nearing of the big 3.

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