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    problem is you're not smart enough to play the game...sure she said he was whupping ass....the key word for you is "CONTEXT" ...she also said that the fight started when Zim tried to detain Tray and Tray said "Get Off"....once Zim touched the kid (and with his background and cowboy behavior of chasing him down in the first place) there's no reason to believe Racheal is lying about what she heard..so again in the "CONTEXT" of Zim physically touching Trayvon..Tray was well within his rights to kick his ass...again in a fair society you don't get the chance to engage, initiate, and start a physical altercation...get your ass kicked and then kill someone....let me know when you're really ready to play...I've been clowning you with each post....
    Show me where she said Zim grabbed him first...I'm still waiting for you. The fact that every post you feel the need to say "I'm clowning you" or "I'm owning you" shows you obviously are on the defense because you haven't "clowned" or "owned" anyone in here. All you've done is show hypothetical theories based on the account of someone who was on the phone and wasn't even there, when a witness who was there IN PERSON (which you continue to duck every time I bring it up) says that Trayvon was the aggressor. And when you see the entire 9-1-1 call, it shows that Zimmerman stopped going after Trayvon after the Operator told him to. You're still drawing straws...you're still reaching, and you haven't caught up yet. Everyone who was actually around the situation says Trayvon was the aggressor, the people who heard the whole story said Zim was not guilty. What more do you want? Go focus on the other 1000 murders that have happened since this trial ended. Or even better, focus on the complete bankruptcy of Detroit...or Benghazi...or things that the government is trying to pull our attention away from by throwing this in our faces so sheep like you can forget that they're ing up this country.

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    everything that Zimmerman said is hear say and doubt...that dude is a liar....it all started with the first lie...
    And Trayvon was a perfect child
    then he covered his tracks by attempting to turn this kid in a gang member, a thug, a drug dealer, a hoodlum, a burglar, all these things that he knew white people would eat up...
    He wasn't a thug? Looking at his record you're saying he wasn't? And I guess Zimmerman posted these on his facebook, too...



    He committed the perfect murder and had the perfect jury, and perfect system to help him get away with it..it's laughable that a thug, gangsta...
    Skittles and Ice Tea..the weapon of choice for thug, burgler, gangsta...
    Skittles + Iced Tea + Codeine or Robitussin = lean...
    Guess you Californians don't know 'bout that Lean.

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    everything that Zimmerman said is hear say and doubt...that dude is a liar....it all started with the first lie...then he covered his tracks by attempting to turn this kid in a gang member, a thug, a drug dealer, a hoodlum, a burglar, all these things that he knew white people would eat up...He committed the perfect murder and had the perfect jury, and perfect system to help him get away with it..it's laughable that a thug, gangsta...

    Skittles and Ice Tea..the weapon of choice for thug, burgler, gangsta...
    Sorry, none of what you wrote matters to the case at all. Zimmerman could say he rode on a unicorn and drank magic Jesus juice. Only one thing matters: Is there a reasonable doubt as to whether Zimmerman murdered Martin or acted in self-defense. Bloody faced Zimmerman + no blood or marks on Martin + plausible story of being attacked + no real evidence to contradict Zimmerman's story = not guilty. Note that I said "evidence." You write a lot of words but there is no evidence among them.

    You are certainly giving some ideas of another scenario but there is not enough evidence for what you say to remove reasonable doubt as to what happened. There would need to be a lot more evidence to even come close.

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    bit much there, bro.

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    You're missing the point. The national story didn't come from the fact that Trayvon was killed. It came from the fact that he was killed and walked around for 44 days without so much as an arrest or an investigation from the authorities. I'm pretty sure those black-kids you're speaking of were arrested on the spot and justice was swiftly handed down. Racism is wrong both ways, the difference is how many blacks do you see trying to justify those kinds of racial situations?
    Yet another lying, race-baiting asshole. Zimmerman was taken into custody and there was investigation... the local cops (& prosecutor) concluded that there wasn't a chance in of getting a conviction and released Zimmerman. Then political pressure brought in an outside prosecutor, who, by the way, avoided a grand jury review of the evidence and took it straight to trial... and Zimmerman was, just like the local cops and prosecutor expected, was found not guilty. What a waste of everyone's money and time by the race-baiting assholes... Not to mention Zimmerman's life thrown under the bus. If the race-baiting assholes hadn't made this into a bull mess, Zimmerman's completely innocent parents wouldn't have been forced out of their home by death threats... Lots of collateral damage that race-baiting assholes do, so that they can maintain a locked in voting block. Must suck to be a young black kid in the States, because the leadership likes the people ignorant, gullible and poor... need that voting block for the "good of the people" - not that anyone but the race-baiting assholes are really doing good out of it. Hope that kind of assholery doesn't get started where I live.

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    Yet another lying, race-baiting asshole. Zimmerman was taken into custody and there was investigation... the local cops (& prosecutor) concluded that there wasn't a chance in of getting a conviction and released Zimmerman. Then political pressure brought in an outside prosecutor, who, by the way, avoided a grand jury review of the evidence and took it straight to trial... and Zimmerman was, just like the local cops and prosecutor expected, was found not guilty. What a waste of everyone's money and time by the race-baiting assholes... Not to mention Zimmerman's life thrown under the bus. If the race-baiting assholes hadn't made this into a bull mess, Zimmerman's completely innocent parents wouldn't have been forced out of their home by death threats... Lots of collateral damage that race-baiting assholes do, so that they can maintain a locked in voting block. Must suck to be a young black kid in the States, because the leadership likes the people ignorant, gullible and poor... need that voting block for the "good of the people" - not that anyone but the race-baiting assholes are really doing good out of it. Hope that kind of assholery doesn't get started where I live.
    It's gets better than this, but, I'll be damned if I can cite it.

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    Zimmerman's smile in the court looked malicious though, like he just got away with a crime... Police and investigators found him non-guilty, and I don't have no solid evidence to rebut their conclusion, but I don't think smiling is the right thing to do in the court of law like you had just won a prize. Martin's family already suffered a lot from his demise and what Zimmerman did in the court was like sprinkling salt over their wound.

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    Zimmerman's smile in the court looked malicious though, like he just got away with a crime... Police and investigators found him non-guilty, and I don't have no solid evidence to rebut their conclusion, but I don't think smiling is the right thing to do in the court of law like you had just won a prize. Martin's family already suffered a lot from his demise and what Zimmerman did in the court was like sprinkling salt over their wound.
    cuz he's guilty... I will say this...Tray fell victim because he was kid to young to carry...from my POV may he RIP....however, all this has done is galvanized us brothers....I will say this to any of you Zimmerman enthusiasts...I don't care how young or old...you run up on me like you did that kid and you're a footnote in history...not only am I willing but I'm literally dying for the opportunity...my pops always taught me growing up..: "If someone breaks in stay low son because I'm aiming high." and rest assured Kool will never yes I said never be a Trayvon Martin...you guys think I'm kidding I relish the opportunity for a cowboy to accost me that way...I pray for it...man I want it to happen so bad I can taste it...real talk

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    I don't have no right nor evidence to incriminate George Zimmerman, I just think it was the wrong thing to do to smirk at such a tragedy. May not be a crime but it was a true tragedy indubitably.

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    cuz he's guilty... I will say this...Tray fell victim because he was kid to young to carry...from my POV may he RIP....however, all this has done is galvanized us brothers....I will say this to any of you Zimmerman enthusiasts...I don't care how young or old...you run up on me like you did that kid and you're a footnote in history...not only am I willing but I'm literally dying for the opportunity...my pops always taught me growing up..: "If someone breaks in stay low son because I'm aiming high." and rest assured Kool will never yes I said never be a Trayvon Martin...you guys think I'm kidding I relish the opportunity for a cowboy to accost me that way...I pray for it...man I want it to happen so bad I can taste it...real talk
    Better hope it never actually happens, fool. One of the problems that the prosecutor had in this case was proving "depraved mind" - which is necessary for a 2nd degree murder conviction. Couldn't find anything in Zimmerman's history to convince the jury. This post on the other hand... " man I want it to happen so bad I can taste it...real talk"...that there's prime "depraved mind". They'll lock you up and throw away the key - Kool the prison ... still, wouldn't inconvenience your lifestyle I suppose.

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    And Trayvon was a perfect child

    He wasn't a thug? Looking at his record you're saying he wasn't? And I guess Zimmerman posted these on his facebook, too...




    Skittles + Iced Tea + Codeine or Robitussin = lean...
    Guess you Californians don't know 'bout that Lean.
    for the record..that's not proof of anything...looks like a Photoshopped web page...and smoking pot...please....name a me white kid who doesn't... what a piss poor attempt to paint a guy as thug..it's not even a legi amate news site...post something from a credible source like I did...and I'd say attacking a police officer, beating your fiance, and molesting your cousin (all do ented facts) >>>>>>>>>> than smoking pot as a teen

    you fail try again

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    I'd smile too if the American justice system prevailed over an MSNBC-manufactured emotional non-story.

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    Better hope it never actually happens, fool. One of the problems that the prosecutor had in this case was proving "depraved mind" - which is necessary for a 2nd degree murder conviction. Couldn't find anything in Zimmerman's history to convince the jury. This post on the other hand... " man I want it to happen so bad I can taste it...real talk"...that there's prime "depraved mind". They'll lock you up and throw away the key - Kool the prison ... still, wouldn't inconvenience your lifestyle I suppose.
    I want it to happen so bad I can taste it....and if you feeling froggy then jump....

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    I want it to happen so bad I can taste it....and if you feeling froggy then jump....
    Maybe it's cultural, but this whole law abiding adult human being with no interest in getting into a fight for nothing, you just don't get it...The whole self defense thing is not about I wanna shoot somebody, it's I will shoot somebody if I have to, to protect myself, my family, friends and property. It's not an excuse to go around blowing people away...

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    Yet another lying, race-baiting asshole. Zimmerman was taken into custody and there was investigation... the local cops (& prosecutor) concluded that there wasn't a chance in of getting a conviction and released Zimmerman. Then political pressure brought in an outside prosecutor, who, by the way, avoided a grand jury review of the evidence and took it straight to trial... and Zimmerman was, just like the local cops and prosecutor expected, was found not guilty. What a waste of everyone's money and time by the race-baiting assholes... Not to mention Zimmerman's life thrown under the bus. If the race-baiting assholes hadn't made this into a bull mess, Zimmerman's completely innocent parents wouldn't have been forced out of their home by death threats... Lots of collateral damage that race-baiting assholes do, so that they can maintain a locked in voting block. Must suck to be a young black kid in the States, because the leadership likes the people ignorant, gullible and poor... need that voting block for the "good of the people" - not that anyone but the race-baiting assholes are really doing good out of it. Hope that kind of assholery doesn't get started where I live.
    Ironic that you accuse me of "race-baiting" when more than half of the people in this thread have made every attempt to de-humanize Trayvon by posting fake photos of him, saying he was a drug dealer and a thug even though there is no concrete proof of this all the while ignoring the concrete evidence that their "hero" Zimmerman has had anger issues, beat his girlfriend and allegedly molested his cousin. All of this to attempt to justify this grown man following this teenager while carrying a loaded weapon. But I'm the one "race-baiting", if you say so. And the Sanford "investigation" was conducted poorly. The police did not test Mr. Zimmerman for alcohol or drug use that night of the shooting but they tested Martin's corpse. The door-to-door canvassing was half-assed. The Martin family only knew what became of their sun days later after they conducted a search party. If not for the inept and bungling police department on the other end of this, the shooting of Trayvon Martin wouldn't have made national headlines. It would be swept under the carpet just like countless others in Florida

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    Ironic that you accuse me of "race-baiting" when more than half of the people in this thread have made every attempt to de-humanize Trayvon by posting fake photos of him, saying he was a drug dealer and a thug even though there is no concrete proof of this all the while ignoring the concrete evidence that their "hero" Zimmerman has had anger issues, beat his girlfriend and allegedly molested his cousin. All of this to attempt to justify this grown man following this teenager while carrying a loaded weapon. But I'm the one "race-baiting", if you say so. And the Sanford "investigation" was conducted poorly. The police did not test Mr. Zimmerman for alcohol or drug use that night of the shooting but they tested Martin's corpse. The door-to-door canvassing was half-assed. The Martin family only knew what became of their sun days later after they conducted a search party. If not for the inept and bungling police department on the other end of this, the shooting of Trayvon Martin wouldn't have made national headlines. It would be swept under the carpet just like countless others in Florida
    Yeah, you're race baiting, just like the prosecution. There is ZIP physical evidence that disagrees in the slightest with Zimmerman's story, at that point, establishing guilt beyond reasonable doubt is essentially impossible. Which means bringing the case was a complete waste of time - it only served one purpose, trying to stir up racial tension (and therefore the black and minority turnout) prior to the 2012 election... Now, whatever comes up, Zimmerman walks because of double jeopardy. So making a carrying on, making a cause celebre out of the case, has only one purpose - stirring up racial tension. So yeah, race baiting.

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    for the record..that's not proof of anything...looks like a Photoshopped web page...and smoking pot...please....name a me white kid who doesn't... what a piss poor attempt to paint a guy as thug..it's not even a legi amate news site...post something from a credible source like I did...and I'd say attacking a police officer, beating your fiance, and molesting your cousin (all do ented facts) >>>>>>>>>> than smoking pot as a teen

    you fail try again
    Good God, son..you are so hypocritical. You are using a hypothetical situation as your arguments and yet you take actual evidence and say it looks fake to you. He did a of a lot more than smoke pot..and you know that , too..it just doesn't suit your argument.

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    everything that Zimmerman said is hear say and doubt...that dude is a liar....it all started with the first lie...then he covered his tracks by attempting to turn this kid in a gang member, a thug, a drug dealer, a hoodlum, a burglar, all these things that he knew white people would eat up...He committed the perfect murder and had the perfect jury, and perfect system to help him get away with it..it's laughable that a thug, gangsta...

    Skittles and Ice Tea..the weapon of choice for thug, burgler, gangsta...
    that Ice Tea. It was Watermelon juice and an ingredient of "lean" aka "sizzurp", of which the main ingredient is codeine, and there are messages archived of little innocent Trayvon looking for a codeine hook up! This media spin to turn this into anything but a troubled kid sent away because he caused too much trouble, acting shady in a neighborhood with a history of burglary, and attacking the god damn neighborhood watch that was looking to see how the mysterious person in the hoodie in the rain was doing. If he was really doing what his defenders claim, he would have either 1) been home eating his damn candy already or 2) been conversating past the point of "Do you have a problem? Well you do now." before any type of confrontation took place. The kid had a history of fighting (people asking him to teach them to fight) and assault (his teacher at school, and possibly a bus driver) - this is all FACTS that are RECORDED - inadmissable, because past events are irrelevent to the present case - and even with just the current facts there was *nothing* to indicate anything other than exactly what Zimmerman said. At one point, they baited Zimmerman by claiming it was recorded, and his response?? A *relieved* "THANK GOD" - no guilty person would *ever* react that way! He had called the cops, identified himself, and was waiting for the cops, yet he was out there with the agenda to commit murder? Get the outta here. Witnesses, bodily injuries, forensics proof, all back up Zimmerman. This is one of the biggest shams i've seen in my life.

    *EDIT*

    Well heres what i get for posting before i finish the thread. Spursfan posted exactly what I was talking about. Good stuff. Mad props to him throughout this thread, and Cubby, yer the in man.

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    What's going to be the shelf life on this ? Will we still be talking about this in a month? When will people start to move on and not give a anymore?

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    Zimmerman's smile in the court looked malicious though, like he just got away with a crime... Police and investigators found him non-guilty, and I don't have no solid evidence to rebut their conclusion, but I don't think smiling is the right thing to do in the court of law like you had just won a prize. Martin's family already suffered a lot from his demise and what Zimmerman did in the court was like sprinkling salt over their wound.
    After going through what he has for the last 2 years, and having the possibility of jail hanging over his head, knowing the world is against him? yeah I would be smiling. That had to have been the biggest weight off his shoulders. And you're getting on him for being happy for him??

    This whole thing smells real funny...

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    What's going to be the shelf life on this ? Will we still be talking about this in a month? When will people start to move on and not give a anymore?
    When Hussein Obama says so. And not one ing minute sooner. He'll tell Media and Media will tell "you" and you'll tell each other.

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    when did you nerds become experts on "lean" and when did watermelon juice and skittles become ingredients to make it? so any kid going to the corner store with now n laters and sprite is also making lean? what about mike&ikes and big red? GTFOH.

    i don't do drugs anymore, but i used to sip lean frequently when i was a young knucklehead and the only candy we used were jolly ranchers(which was rare because it tastes better with just promethazine/codeine &sprite) and even then trayvon had no trace of opiates in his system so......

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    when did you nerds become experts on "lean" and when did watermelon juice and skittles become ingredients to make it? so any kid going to the corner store with now n laters and sprite is also making lean? what about mike&ikes and big red? GTFOH.

    i don't do drugs anymore, but i used to sip lean frequently when i was a young knucklehead and the only candy we used were jolly ranchers(which was rare because it tastes better with just promethazine/codeine &sprite) and even then trayvon had no trace of opiates in his system so......
    Don't even try to reason with them. They're going to grasp at any straw no matter how short it is to justify a grown man taking the life of a black teenager. I think we all know the answer to this. But if aggressive black wannabe cop named DeSean who had a history of beating his wife, assaulting a police officer, flunked out of most his classes and allegedly molested his cousin shot a weed-smoking and hoodie wearing white teenager under the same cir stances; would they be attempting to defend the shooter with this much vigor? And would they trying this hard to de-humanize the victim?

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